Donal wrote: "Phil has previously conceded that his own view is not supported by any explicit statement by W in TLP. According to his own strictures then, his views are not the result of any 'textual analysis'." Nope. What I conceded is that I was not quoting Wittgenstein. I am claiming that my view is supported by the text of TLP. The supporting part is the textual analysis I provided some time ago. I look forward to Donal's engagement with the text of TLP. Phil Enns Yogyakarta, Indonesia ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html