[lit-ideas] Re: Europe's humiliating history
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:10:11 +0000 (GMT)
Let's forget Britain is part of Europe. Your post is after all not really about
Europe, it's "let's slag off de Gaulle and France again, especially re Vichy
France (not that the US wasn't feeble them too)".
I looked up de Gaulle's speech, and read about the liberation of Paris. Some
Free French troops were stopped -- stopped by the Americans, with, apparently,
the shameful acquiescence of the British -- from taking part in the triumphal
entry into Paris. Because they were black. Two-thirds of Free French forces
were black. De Gaulle was told French troops could lead the triumphal entry
into Paris only if the French force was all-white. There was no all-white
French division. Black soldiers were booted out.
But let's all go on about Vichy France...
--- On Sat, 19/2/11, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe's humiliating history
To: "Lit-Ideas" <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, 19 February, 2011, 6:18
Furthermore, for the purposes of war, Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Australia
and the United States are not Europe. They are the allies who rescue European
states like France, Belgium, the Netherlands, when other European States like
Germany, Italy and Serbia get them into trouble.
I've noticed that whenever I speak of European humiliation meaning France,
someone is bound to challenge me meaning Britain. I do not distinguish between
Britain and the U.S. in regard to the fighting of the Second World War --
except that Patton was a much better General than Montgomery.
I realize that there are a few Brits who think of themselves as Europeans, but
we have a few Americans who think the same thing, our President for example.
Nevertheless France thought of us as one word, Anglo-Americans and we really
were during that war -- along with the Canadians, New Zealanders and
Australians.
Lawrence
in rainy San Jacinto
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Lawrence Helm
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:47 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe's humiliating history
Thanks Mike.
I've studied these most carefully; so with any luck the rain will let up and I
can go back to taking photographs.
Lawrence
From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Geary
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:23 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Europe's humiliating history
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk37TD_08eA
Here are some sites that might help Lawrence in his pursuit of European
humiliation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDQ1ljlnSjU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmnOpoGAPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyeKYQdYISg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ccUvTM5pk
Mike Geary
Memphis
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2011/02/europe-humiliating-history.html
Lawrence
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