--- Eric <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The most extreme opinion I offered was that I had > no problem with the CIA waterboarding Khalid Sheik > Mohammed, one of the masterminds of 9/11, if > indeed it had done so. Sorry I still haven't > changed my mind on that. People involved in > horrific attacks like that--and the category also > includes white males like those involved in the > Oklahoma City Bombing--would seem to forfeit the > courtesy we afford to serial killers. > > But if you want to advocate for KSM, go right > ahead. Maybe I'm wrong. *I don't need to "advocate for KSM." I think that torture is wrong by definition, and no argument about the moral badness of the tortured can justify it. I wouldn't approve of torture of serial murderers, or of Miloshevic or of Hitler. The only argument that could legitimately be made in defense of torture is the "ticking bomb" argument, i.e. that innocent lives will be saved if the information is obtained quickly. That argument does not apply here, three years after Mohammad has been arrested. To advocate torture on any other grounds strikes me as simply barbaric. O.K. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html