[lit-ideas] Re: Englehardt, Cold Warrior in a Strange Land

From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:04:36 -0500

The fact of the matter is that one-third of a trillion dollars worth of
might per year later, there's no end in sight to the enemies of Iraq.  One
might even argue that there really is no Iraq, only three factions once
held together by a dictator, now voting along sectarian lines.  I don't
have time to read the thing on bin Laden, but it's going to take a lot of
persuading that this anything other than a war in the conditional tense, he
could have developed WMD, he would have, etc,



> [Original Message]
> From: Eric <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 3/23/2006 2:35:39 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Englehardt, Cold Warrior in a Strange Land
>
>  >>Iraq is winning on home made stuff
>
> Here's an assertion worth debating. "Iraq" is 
> winning. Iraq is "winning."
>
> Hmmm, I thought "Iraq" was "voting."
>
> "Iraq" is "winning" implies that Iraq is trying to 
> destroy its own infrastructure, blow its own oil 
> facilities, bomb its own police, hospitals, 
> mosques, and schools.  It implies that "victory" 
> for "Iraq" is chaos, civil war, and fragmentation.
>
> Makes no sense. The proposition I would support is 
> that:
>
> *There is a perception in the US that the enemies 
> of an Iraqi government are winning.
> *Having or not having that perception is what is 
> at stake.
>
> Hence my pointing out that the NYT article about 
> the "man on the box" not really being the man on 
> the box, but rather a former mayor of Baghdad 
> sponsored by Arab NGOs and "private 
> contributions." These groups financed an 
> international PR campaign by a supposed "victim's 
> group" deceptively claiming to be in Baghdad but 
> actually operating out of Amman, Jordan.
>
> It shows the underside of the large PR War being 
> fought for perceptions here in the US.
>
>
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