Dear list, Robert wrote that he is "depressed and frustrated by the disappearance of plain speech and writing among young people," but that he "can think of no way of bringing it back." I am sorry that you feel that way. I also like those who speak plain, like when I want to buy a sandwich and the proprietor plainly tells the price without any jokes, innuendos or tricks. This also applies to writing (not a sign saying what the price /might/ be, say). When my interlocutor is convoluted I can get otiose. Anyway, though, I like to think that kids write a lot /more/ these days than they used to, and they write more stuff closer to their /vernacular/. I believe that is a good thing when it aids in articulating needs and demands for people. Of course, a highly specialized and sadly underdemanded writing skill as is practiced in analyitcal philosophy is possibly less accentuated isa result or due to some third determinind variable. I don't know. And I don't know if it was better when kids could write perfectly legible letters of application but were unable to describe subjective explosions of joy celebration oppression hopes etc Cheers. -tor Norway torgeir_fjeld@xxxxxxxx // Ph: (+47) 47851394 http://facebook.com/phatic -- Fred, frihet og gode offentlige tjenester -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html