-----Original Message----- From: Robert Paul <Robert.Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 22, 2004 9:21 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Dr. Feelgood and the Interns Andy Amago writes: >For an illustration that understanding one's life is a question/s with answer/s, I refer once again to the movie I saw last night, House of Sand and Fog. In that movie, the motives of the Colonel were transparent. The Deputy Sheriff's actions were, by contrast, bizarre but very imaginable. He and the lead character (actress Jennifer Connolley) would have done well to examine their motives. As to whether philosophy would have helped, I read somewhere that Russell Bertrand was depressed to where he was contemplating ending his life. Then while walking on a beach he began to consider life, and it gave him enough purpose, shall we say, to keep going.< R.P. Many philosophers, from Socrates to Wittgenstein have at one time or another considered suicide; but so have many ordinary people. Why is it relevant that Russell was a philospher? If there's an argument here that philosophy will answer some question or other--or that there is even a question here to be answered--I've missed it. Philosophers don't treat every question as a philosophical question, for not every question is. (Here, I find myself in surprising agreement with Donal McEvoy.) '[Russell] began to consider life, and it gave him enough purpose...to keep going.' Yes, and one could equally well think about one's family and friends or how pleasant it was to walk on the beach, as opposed to being immobilized in a frozen lake. As an example of how philosophy can settle questions about the meaning and purpose of life, the case is, I think, underdescribed. A.A. Actually, you're right. I was going to add originally that philosophy in his case worked on the level of distraction. Obviously Russell didn't want to kill himself badly enough or he would have done it. He needed a reason meaningful enough, absorbing enough, to distract himself from his depressed thoughts and found one. Many non-philosophers do the same, i.e., kill themselves or change their minds and find a reason to live, as you say. The meaning and purpose of life is probably unanswerable, by philosophers or anyone else. I started to say that I think depressed people come closest to grasping the meaninglessness of life, but I'm reminded of Rod McEwen, who made a phenomenal amount of money in the 60's and 70's (tens of millions), when he came down with depression in the 80's. He understood that something went wrong in his brain, and he took newly minted Prozac and recovered after a while (which may or may not have had anything to do with the Prozac). On the other hand, I might be making the mistake of thinking that a lot of money equates with happiness, which obviously it didn't for McEwen. Perhaps having made all that money he experienced the lyrics of that Peggy Lee song, is that all there is, indeed, the meaningless of life once one no longer has anything to do to occupy their minds. Personally, I don't think philosophy can answer the answerable, although I don't agree that if there is no answer, then there is no question. There still is, for example, no answer as to why we and all animals sleep, but the question is fascinating and debated and may one day be answered. Andy Amago Robert Paul Reed College ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html