[lit-ideas] Re: Dinner Talk

  • From: "Erin Holder" <erin.holder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:11:33 -0400

Well, it isn't her book that I have to pick up, but I just did a search for
her in the library catalogue and it came up with some things that look like
they would be really useful (if I ever get to the library).

Thanks :)


Erin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:06 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Dinner Talk


>
> In a message dated 7/29/2004 7:06:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> erin.holder@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Then  again, who really wants to
> read a book called Dinner Talk:  Cultural  Patterns of Conversation
> (something
> like that) anyway?
>
>
> -----
>
> I think that's Deborah Tannen?
>
> I like her quite a bit (+> a lot).
>
> Matter of fact, have her book on the study (based on her PhD)  of a
> four-participant Thanksgiving Dinner she recorded (she included) where she
reanalyzes
> the Gricean 'boys' versus the 'Strawsonian' girls:
>
> Female conversationalists -- in that Thanksgiving Dinner -- as I recall,
> work, for Tannen, along Strawson's lines of 'existence presupposition'
(the old
> dilemma of whether the king of France _can_ be bald if he doesn't exist).
> Gricean males, on the other hand, can implicaturally speak (to no end) of
> nonexistent entities and _with a straight face_ over turkey and  desserts.
Made for
> an interesting read.
>
> Tannen later went on to analyse how race influences everthing: anglos (or
> 'Anglo's', as Geary would not write it) converse mainly in English -- and
use
> 'understatement' as _the_ major implicature -- while other races converse
in
> other 'languages' (and can be much more explicit -- e.g. the French).
>
> Tannen contributed an essay to _Legacy of Grice_ published by the Berkeley
> Linguistics Society.
>
> Cheers,
>
> JL
>
>
>
>
>
>
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