[lit-ideas] Re: Costumes

  • From: "Veronica Caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:52:42 -0400

I thought ordinary ties were used as handkerchiefs.

Veronica Caley

Milford, MI

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ritchie" <ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:17 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Costumes



On Aug 17, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Robert Paul wrote:

I meant to write
Mike Geary wrote

I've always considered neckties as phallic symbols --flaccid-phallic symbols. They've always seemed to me to be a statement over the gate to our curture that reads: "Abandon all hope of fun, ye who enter here." Yeah, but then I come from a working class background.

I think you should give us an analysis of bolos (the 'Western' ties), and bow ties. If you're not to busy, you might deconstruct the Windsor, the half-Windsor, and the four-in-hand. (I'd be careful with that last one.)

Yours appreciatively,

Robert Paul
Tie-less in Gaza

Professor Geary will no doubt recall the talk that I gave at the Friday Harbor conference some time in the last two decades, "Sex, Swords, Suits and Ties," and the subsequent course I taught on the same subject. He was at one time much impressed by my revelation that the tie has a martial [Croatian] origin and that dangly down bits of one sort and another were often the subject of warriors' wit. In his free time he will no doubt be planning to visit this semester's seminar on the history of weapons and bring with him his magnum opus, which I've heard is quite thick.

David Ritchie,
rich with ties in
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