Angelica, I've given you balls and not a-nuttin' phatic: This makes no sense. Interlocutor: Yes. No sense. phatic: As in the sense of no sense. Interlocutor: Mmm... phatic: How does one make sense of no sense. Interlocutor: It's a matter of negation or implication. Or both. Axe JL. Both: Or not. Cheers, phatic ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html