[lit-ideas] Re: Conscious after the fact?/Una paloma blanca

  • From: Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:25:16 -0700 (PDT)

It gets tiresome having 'misanthropy' hurled at one as if it's something other 
than a willingness to see reality for what it is, so when I meet someone who 
can look at reality and see it for what it is (peak oil theorists 
notwithstanding) it gives me a little boost that there are, however small a 
handful, people who get it.  Morris Berman was another one who faces reality 
squarely and doesn't kow tow as if people were something other than 
ignoramuses.  I might take this opportunity to remind you that my position has 
been the same for years and years, unvindicated, and not once have I wavered on 
it.   That part is not psychologically revealing I imagine?
 
P.S. For anyone interested in acquiring Morris Berman's book, it's going out of 
print.  It's now available at Barnes & Noble for about $2.50 and probably not 
for a whole bunch longer.  No surprise that his book isn't exactly a best 
seller.
 


--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Donal McEvoy <donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Conscious after the fact?/Una paloma blanca
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 11:47 PM

--- On Mon, 30/6/08, Andy <mimi.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>If Freud gave up on humanity, then I'm
> certainly vindicated, not that I need to be vindicated, but
> I am.

Substitute anything for "Freud gave up on humanity", and here we have
an assertion that is psychologically revealing; to me if smacks of a certain
complacency/dogmatism allied to a capacity to find and exploit supposed
'verifications', while decrying their necessity. If there is no
"need to be vindicated" then surely whatever Freud did is otiose and
cannot provide vindication? 

(I'm trying to copyright "Not That I Need To Be Vindicated, But I
Am" as song title for a Broadway musical I hope to write, along with
"I Don't Apologize For Who I Am, I Just Am" and "Every
Street Has A Corner That's Mine, All Mine"  etc.)


Re David's post:- I didn't find it ugly (that was SpainvItaly as ground
down by Italy), am unsure about the Ballack thing (though think it is the kind
of thing _he_ would do), and thought Senna was a powerhouse. The  headbutt
thing was Silva being stupid but the German leant in and they mutually locked
horns first - the ref was right to let it go as six of one etc. and on the de
minimis principle.

The best team of the tournament won and (your own team winning aside)
that's always the best thing. (Possible counter-example:- England _if they
were the best in '66_ for Alf's wingless wonders lead to copycat 4-4-2
defensiveness that spilled over until a glorious Brazil showed how it should be
done four years later; and some Italian teams too, but then they can make
defending an art form).

Donal
Heigh-ho Silva! 
(That's enough - Ed.)




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