[lit-ideas] Re: Conjecture
- From: "Walter C. Okshevsky" <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 12:07:52 -0230
While I don't understand Hungarian, on the basis of my reading of the tone of
this missive, and (poor) understanding of 4 languages, I am led to conclude
that AP is not inviting JLS out for a dinner of schnitzel mit kartoffelsalat
und Chianti. It sounds somewhat *sneering*.
(Ever notice that an ear for "tone" is not an organ but an aesthetic
ability/sensibility possessed by some and not others?)
Enjoying the long weekend in Canada in honour of Queen Victoria, Walter O
Quoting Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> speranza, mandaci una cartolina dopo l'esaurimento del deposito di puttanate
> che inventi. se non ci riesci togliti il tappo dal buco e mettitelo nel cavo
> orale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
> Sent: 18 May 2013 02:29 PM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Fermat's Conjecture
>
> We are considering Fermat's Conjecture.
>
> As Palma notes, _he_ would not call it a conjecture.
>
> This vis-à-vis a similar claim by McEvoy.
>
>
> "The contradiction [in Frege's system, as discovered by Russell] was there
>
> even if no one ever discovered it."
>
> Cfr.
>
> "Fermat's conjecture would be there even if Fermat had not conjectured it."
>
> In a message dated 5/18/2013 6:39:18 A.M. UTC-02, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx
> grants the metaphysical status of the claim, and interestingly adds:
>
> "The negation of this metaphysical statement is that the contradiction was
> not there to be discovered prior to its discovery by Russell: if you are
> defending this position, then that is also a metaphysical claim. It cannot be
> a criticism of a proposition, as against its negation, that the proposition
> is 'metaphysical' if its negation is also metaphysical."
>
> To further analyse would be whether the metaphysical (untestable) nature of
> the claim is not furthered stressed (as it is) by the point about this being
> a case of interaction of an abstraction (item in World 3) as 'having a
> causal effect' on a World-2 item. Or something like that.
>
> But I will re-consider this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Speranza
>
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>
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