[lit-ideas] Conjecture

  • From: Adriano Palma <Palma@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 13:32:34 +0000

speranza, mandaci una cartolina dopo l'esaurimento del deposito di puttanate 
che inventi. se non ci riesci togliti il tappo dal buco e mettitelo nel cavo 
orale

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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Fermat's Conjecture

We are considering Fermat's Conjecture.

As Palma notes, _he_ would not call it a conjecture.

This vis-à-vis a similar claim by McEvoy.


"The contradiction [in Frege's system, as discovered by Russell] was  there

even if no one ever discovered it."

Cfr.

"Fermat's conjecture would be there even if Fermat had not conjectured  it."

In a message dated 5/18/2013 6:39:18 A.M. UTC-02, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx 
grants the metaphysical status of the claim, and  interestingly adds:

"The negation of this metaphysical statement is that the contradiction  was not 
there to be discovered prior to its discovery by Russell: if you are defending 
this position, then that is also a metaphysical claim. It cannot be a  
criticism of a proposition, as against its negation, that the proposition is  
'metaphysical' if its negation is also metaphysical."

To further analyse would be whether the metaphysical (untestable) nature of  
the claim is not furthered stressed (as it is) by the point about this being a  
case of interaction of an abstraction (item in World 3) as 'having a causal  
effect' on a World-2 item. Or something like that.

But I will re-consider this.

Cheers,

Speranza

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