In a message dated 12/1/2014 10:13:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: "While I’ve spent a little (not a lot of) time thinking about “startle,” I’ve spent a bit more thinking about “ Confessional.” Are my poems “confessional” at the present time? They do relate in some way to what’s going on – whatever it is, whether it is happening or merely being thought about. Is that “Confessional”? I don’t think so, but then I can’t really see the “confessions” in the poetry of Plath, Lowell and Sexton. Berryman seems more “confessional” in the dictionary sense of the word." Well, etymologically, as I read at http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=confess&search mode=none 'confess' derives from Latin "confiteri", to acknowledge. Strictly, 'confiteri' being a compound of "com-", together, + "fateri" (1st person, 'fateor') to admit, akin to "fari" "speak" (see "fame" (n.)). The 'com-' being crucial, since a 'confessional poet' needs an addressee 'with whom' he or she admits this or that (Thus Dickinson would NOT be a confessional poet, since she kept all her verses in a chest for NO ONE to read -- that was her INTENTION). The link above adds: "Its original religious sense was of one who avows his religion in spite of persecution or danger but does not suffer martyrdom." The Loeb Classical Library has edited a lot of Latin verse, and I wonder if 'confessional poetry' has been used by Latinists. Perhaps later we should explore if the Hellenists have! In any case, I quote the Short/Lewis entry for 'confiteor' in ps. It is interesting, I find, for Lewis's and Short's usage of locutions like 'imply'. What IS that one 'confesses'. There are some quotations that refer to the strictly 'religious' "usage". It's not clear how the 'together' sense of 'com-' applies to ALL cases, though! (Lewis and Short add that there is an 'absolute' 'usage': "He confessed" _simpliciter_). Cheers, Speranza ---- confĭtĕor, fessus, 2 (arch. I inf. confiterier, Plaut. Cist. 1, 3, 22), v. dep. fateor, acknowledge confess own avow -- an error, mistake, or a fact previously denied or doubted, etc., implying a sacrifice of will or a change of conviction; while fateor expresses a simple acknowledgment, and profiteor a voluntary avowal -- concede allow grant (class. in prose and poetry): "quid confitetur, atque ita libenter confitetur, ut non solum fateri sed etiam profiteri videatur?" Cic. Caecin. 9, 24; cf.: "hic ego non solum confiteor, verum etiam profiteor" Cicero, Fragm. ap. Non. p. 434, 30: "tacendo loqui, non infitiando confiteri videbantur" id. Sest. 18, 40. I In gen. (a) With acc.: et genus et divitias meas, Plaut. Capt. 2, 3, 52: peccatum suum, Cic. N. D. 2, 4, 11: amorem nutrici, Ov. M. 14, 703; cf.: amorem patris nutrici, Quint. 9, 2, 64: crimen, Curt. 6, 11, 31: facinus, id. 8, 8, 2: singula, * Cat. 86, 2: se, make one's self known (sc. Jovem), Ov. M. 3, 2; cf. deam, Verg. A. 2, 591. —With two accs.: se victos, Cacs. B. C. 1, 84: se imperitum, Quint. 1, 10, 19: causam Caesaris meliorem, id. 5, 11, 42: hoc de statuis, Cic. Verr. 2, 2, 60, § 149: summam infirmitatem de se, Quint. 2, 4, 28: de se quid voluerit, id. 8, 4, 23.— (b) With acc. and inf.: hoc confiteor jure mi obtigisse, Ter. And. 3, 5, 1; id. Heaut. 2, 3, 97; 5, 3, 12: me abs te cupisse laudari aperte atque ingenue confitebar, Cic. Fam. 5, 2, 2; 1, 9, 18; id. N. D. 1, 7, 44; Lucr. 1, 271; 1, 826; 2, 691 al.; Quint. 2, 17, 19; 11, 1, 85; Suet. Caes. 52 et saep.— (g) Absol.: ut eampse vos audistis confiterier, Plaut. Cist. 1, 3, 22; Ter. Heaut. 5, 3, 13; id. Phorm. 5, 9 (8), 46: confitentem audire Torquatum, Cic. Fin. 2, 7, 21; Ov. M. 2, 52; 13, 270; Curt. 6, 11, 14; Tac. A. 11, 28: vere, Ov. R. Am. 318; cf.: confessae manus, i. e. confessing defeat, id. M. 5, 215.— (d) With de: de maleficio, Cic. Rosc. Am. 41, 119; so id. ib. 42, 123; Tac. A. 14, 59; cf. supra, a fin.— b Part. perf.: "confessus", a, um, in a pass. signif.: aes, Lex XII. Tab. ap. Gell. 15, 13, 11, and 20, 1, 45; Dig. 42, 1, 15; v. under P. a.—Hence, II Esp., after the Aug. per., sometimes, to reveal manifest make known show. (a) With acc.: confessa vultibus iram, Ov. M. 6, 35: motum animi sui lacrimis, Quint. 6, 1, 23: admirationem suam plausu, id. 8, 3, 3; 9, 4, 39: cupidinem coëundi, id. 1, 28, 2. — (b) With acc. and inf., Quint. 1, 6, 15; 4, 2, 122; Plin. Ep. 3, 14, 3; Pall. Jun. 7, 6.— III In eccl. writers, to confess own acknowledge Christum, Prud. στεφ. 5, 40. — With dat.: tibi, Domine, Vulg. Psa. 137, 1: nomini tuo, id. ib. 141, 8.— Absol., Cypr. Ep. 15. —confessus, a, um, P. a. 1 Act., confessing, that has acknowledged, pleaded guilty, etc.: reus, Ov. P. 2, 2, 56: in judicio reus, Dig. 48, 4, 4, § 1.—Subst.: confessi, ōrum, m., criminals who have confessed their guilt: de confessis supplicium sumere, Sall. C. 52, 36.— 2 Pass., lit., acknowledged; hence, undoubted evident certain incontrovertible (most freq. in the post-Aug. per.): ut omnes intellegant, quam improbam, quam manifestam, quam confessam rem pecuniā redimere conetur, Cic. Verr. 2, 3, 56, § 130: confessā in re, Plin. 7, 49, 50, § 164; 20, 11, 45, § 116. —Esp., subst.: confessum, i, n., an undoubted, certain, acknowledged thing, matter a confessis transeamus ad dubiā, Sen. Q. N. 2, 21, 1: adhuc versamur in confessis, Quint. 7, 1, 48: de confessis disserere, Plin. 10, 49, 70, § 138 al. —Hence the phrases: ex confesso, confessedly beyond doubt Quint. 3, 5, 3; Sen. Ep. 76, 12: in confesso esse, be notorious be everywhere known id. Ben. 3, 11, 2; id. Brev. Vit. 2, 3; id. Q. N. 2, 22, 2; Vell. 2, 85, 4; Plin. 35, 8, 34, § 54; Tac. Or. 25; 27: vita cervis in confesso longa est, Plin. 8, 32, 50, § 191; Amm. 21, 1, 3: in confessum venire, be generally acknowledged be well known Plin. Ep. 10, 81 (85), 8; cf.: ad liquidum confessumque perducere omnia, Quint. 5, 14, 28: pro confesso habere aliquid, Lact. 2, 8. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html