[lit-ideas] Re: Confessional Poetry

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In a message dated 12/1/2014 10:13:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: "While I’ve spent a little (not a lot of)  
time 
thinking about “startle,” I’ve spent a bit more thinking about  “
Confessional.”  Are my poems “confessional” at the present time?   They do 
relate in 
some way to what’s going on – whatever it is, whether it is  happening or 
merely being thought about.  Is that “Confessional”?  I  don’t think so, 
but then I can’t really see the “confessions” in the poetry of  Plath, Lowell 
and Sexton.  Berryman seems more “confessional” in the  dictionary sense 
of the word."

Well, etymologically, as I read at
 
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=confess&search
mode=none

'confess' derives from Latin
 
"confiteri", to acknowledge. 
 
Strictly, 'confiteri' being a compound of "com-", together, + "fateri"  
(1st person, 'fateor') to admit, akin to "fari" "speak" (see "fame" (n.)). 
 
The 'com-' being crucial, since a 'confessional poet' needs an addressee  
'with whom' he or she admits this or that (Thus Dickinson would NOT be a  
confessional poet, since she kept all her verses in a chest for NO ONE to read  
-- that was her INTENTION). 
 
The link above adds: 
 
"Its original religious sense was of one who avows his religion in spite of 
 persecution or danger but does not suffer martyrdom."
 
The Loeb Classical Library has edited a lot of Latin verse, and I wonder if 
 'confessional poetry' has been used by Latinists. Perhaps later we should  
explore if the Hellenists have!
 
In any case, I quote the Short/Lewis entry for 'confiteor' in ps. It  is 
interesting, I find, for  Lewis's and Short's usage of locutions like  
'imply'. What IS that one 'confesses'. There are some quotations that refer to  
the 
strictly 'religious' "usage". It's not clear how the 'together' sense of  
'com-' applies to ALL cases, though! (Lewis and Short add that there is an  
'absolute' 'usage': "He confessed" _simpliciter_). 
 
Cheers,
 
Speranza
 
----
 
confĭtĕor, fessus, 2 (arch. 
 
I inf. confiterier, Plaut. Cist. 1, 3, 22), v. dep. fateor, 
 
acknowledge
confess
own
avow 
 
-- an error, mistake, or a fact previously denied or doubted, etc.,  
implying a sacrifice of will or a change of conviction; while fateor expresses 
a  
simple acknowledgment, and profiteor a voluntary avowal -- 
 
concede
allow
grant 
 
(class. in prose and poetry): 
 
"quid confitetur, atque ita libenter confitetur, ut non solum fateri sed  
etiam profiteri videatur?" 
 
Cic. Caecin. 9, 24; cf.: 
 
"hic ego non solum confiteor, verum etiam profiteor"
 
Cicero, Fragm. ap. Non. p. 434, 30: 
 
"tacendo loqui, non infitiando confiteri videbantur"
 
id. Sest. 18, 40. 
 
I In gen. 

(a)  With acc.: et genus et divitias meas, Plaut. Capt. 2, 3, 52:  peccatum 
suum, Cic. N. D. 2, 4, 11: amorem nutrici, Ov. M. 14, 703; cf.: amorem  
patris nutrici, Quint. 9, 2, 64: crimen, Curt. 6, 11, 31: facinus, id. 8, 8, 2: 
 singula, * Cat. 86, 2: se, 
 
make one's self known 
 
(sc. Jovem), Ov. M. 3, 2; cf. deam, Verg. A. 2, 591.
 
—With two accs.: se victos, Cacs. B. C. 1, 84: se imperitum, Quint. 1, 10,  
19: causam Caesaris meliorem, id. 5, 11, 42: hoc de statuis, Cic. Verr. 2, 
2,  60, § 149: summam infirmitatem de se, Quint. 2, 4, 28: de se quid 
voluerit, id.  8, 4, 23.—
 
(b)  With acc. and inf.: hoc confiteor jure mi obtigisse, Ter.  And. 3, 5, 
1; id. Heaut. 2, 3, 97; 5, 3, 12: me abs te cupisse laudari aperte  atque 
ingenue confitebar, Cic. Fam. 5, 2, 2; 1, 9, 18; id. N. D. 1, 7, 44; Lucr.  1, 
271; 1, 826; 2, 691 al.; Quint. 2, 17, 19; 11, 1, 85; Suet. Caes. 52 et  
saep.—
 
(g)  Absol.: ut eampse vos audistis confiterier, Plaut. Cist. 1,  3, 22; 
Ter. Heaut. 5, 3, 13; id. Phorm. 5, 9 (8),  46: confitentem audire  Torquatum, 
Cic. Fin. 2, 7, 21; Ov. M. 2, 52; 13, 270; Curt. 6, 11, 14; Tac. A.  11, 
28: vere, Ov. R. Am. 318; cf.: confessae manus, i. e. confessing defeat, id.  
M. 5, 215.—
 
(d)  With de: de maleficio, Cic. Rosc. Am. 41, 119; so id. ib.  42, 123; 
Tac. A. 14, 59; cf. supra, a fin.—
 
b Part. perf.: "confessus", a, um, in a pass. signif.: aes, Lex XII. Tab.  
ap. Gell. 15, 13, 11, and 20, 1, 45; Dig. 42, 1, 15; v. under P. a.—Hence, 
 
II Esp., after the Aug. per., sometimes, to 
 
reveal
manifest
make known
show. 
 
(a) With acc.: confessa vultibus iram, Ov. M. 6, 35: motum animi sui  
lacrimis, Quint. 6, 1, 23: admirationem suam plausu, id. 8, 3, 3; 9, 4, 39:  
cupidinem coëundi, id. 1, 28, 2. —
 
(b) With acc. and inf., Quint. 1, 6, 15; 4, 2, 122; Plin. Ep. 3, 14,  3; 
Pall. Jun. 7, 6.— 
 

III In eccl. writers, to 
 
confess
own
acknowledge
 
Christum, Prud. στεφ. 5, 40.
 
— With dat.: tibi, Domine, Vulg. Psa. 137, 1: nomini tuo, id. ib. 141,  8.—
Absol., Cypr. Ep. 15.
 
—confessus, a, um, P. a. 

1    Act., 
 
confessing, that has acknowledged, pleaded guilty, etc.: reus, Ov. P. 2, 2, 
 56: in judicio reus, Dig. 48, 4, 4, § 1.—Subst.: confessi, ōrum, m., 
criminals  who have confessed their guilt: de confessis supplicium sumere, 
Sall. 
C. 52,  36.—
 
2    Pass., lit., 
 
acknowledged; hence, 
undoubted
evident
certain
incontrovertible 
 
(most freq. in the post-Aug. per.): ut omnes intellegant, quam improbam,  
quam manifestam, quam confessam rem pecuniā redimere conetur, Cic. Verr. 2, 
3,  56, § 130: confessā in re, Plin. 7, 49, 50, § 164; 20, 11, 45, § 116.
 
—Esp., subst.: 
 
confessum, i, n., 
 
an undoubted, certain, acknowledged thing, matter
 
a confessis transeamus ad dubiā, Sen. Q. N. 2, 21, 1: adhuc versamur in  
confessis, Quint. 7, 1, 48: de confessis disserere, Plin. 10, 49, 70, § 138  
al.
 
—Hence the phrases: 
 
ex confesso, 
 
confessedly
beyond doubt
 
Quint. 3, 5, 3; Sen. Ep. 76, 12: in confesso esse, 
 
be notorious
be everywhere known
 
id. Ben. 3, 11, 2; id. Brev. Vit. 2, 3; id. Q. N. 2, 22, 2; Vell. 2, 85, 4; 
 Plin. 35, 8, 34, § 54; Tac. Or. 25; 27: vita cervis in confesso longa est, 
Plin.  8, 32, 50, § 191; Amm. 21, 1, 3: in confessum venire, 
 
be generally acknowledged 
be well known
 
Plin. Ep. 10, 81 (85), 8; cf.: ad liquidum confessumque perducere omnia,  
Quint. 5, 14, 28: pro confesso habere aliquid, Lact. 2,  8.

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