the truth is that bryce is grice, as the spice is the worm On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:52 PM, <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: > In a message dated 4/14/2014 8:40:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes: > James Bryce is an author who definitely compared the Roman and the British > modes of imperial administration, particularly the administration in > India. His essay "The Ancient Roman Empire and > the British Empire in India" is here: > http://socserv2.mcmaster.ca/~econ/ugcm/3ll3/bryce/TwoHistoricalStudies.pdf > > > This is a good link. For the record, Wikipedia has an entry on Bryce, who > was ambassador to the USA, and a native of Ireland, as I recall. He is best > known, the Wikipedia entry says, as a Byzantinist, but apparently he hated > the label (* Oddly this reminds me of Grice *) -- but he did write a story > of the later Empire (Oddly, in Italian 'history' and 'story' are NOT > distinguished! -- do not multiply senses beyond necessity). > > It would have been good if Bryce just focused on comparing Roman Empire and > Brtish Empire _simpliciter_ rather than "British Empire IN INDIA" as he > does -- which takes away some of the general interest his study might > otherwise have! But apparently the two things were _pretty_ different. > > L. Helm was wondering about 'fruitful comparisons', borrowing a phrase from > Historum. In the case of Bryce, I do wonder. The thing, published circa > 1914 I think, by the Clarendon Press (typically) may have been > influential -- > and perhaps taught a lesson or two to the Oxford-educated Civil Servants > that populated India back then. > > Incidentally, Bryce has a lot of titles. > > He is The Right Honourable The Viscount Bryce OM GCVO PC FRS FBA -- if you > mustn't! > > The site Omar K. mentions comprises two studies by Bryce: this comparison > and one on Roman Law and British Law. > > Cheers, > > Speranza > > * Once J. L. Austin said to Grice, "Trouble with you is you don't care what > the dictionary says" "I don't. I actually give a hoot what the dictionary > says". "And that's where you make your big mistake". The next day Grice > did > follow Austin's advice. He started to browse the Oxford Concise > Dictionary, from A to Z. He was then analysing 'feeling aggravated', > ;feeling > amazed', 'feeling angry' but he stopped when he reached 'byzantine' for > he found > he could find an implicature, even, for 'I'm feeling rather byzantine > today." * * > > ** Seriously, it's a good thing that Bryce is called a Byzantinist, > although he said he was writing on Roman history simpliciter. He possibly > rejected the idea that the Roman Empire comprised two parts: occidentalis > and > orientalis. As history goes, the attempt of Byzantine reconquest was an > interesting thing and left a mark or two if only in ecclesiastical > architecture! > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > -- palma, e TheKwini, KZN palma cell phone is 0762362391 *only when in Europe*: inst. J. Nicod 29 rue d'Ulm f-75005 paris france