[lit-ideas] Re: Clubbable

  • From: palma <palmaadriano@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 16:57:50 +0200

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On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In a message dated 6/7/2014 9:31:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> (Leaving us, probably, with Wittgenstein and 'the  ordinary language
> philosophers', which is where we die of boredom.)
>
> This  re:
>
> R. Paul quoting, "The University College London’s student union barred a
> self-described “Nietzsche Club”".
>
> The problem may not be so much on Nietzsche but 'club'. Recall  Boswell:
>
> When in 1783 Boswell was proposed by Johnson for membership in his later
> club, which Boswell called “Sam’s,” Johnson coined a new word, when he
>  said:
>
> Boswell is a very clubbable man.
>
> In his dictionary, Johnson defines 'club' as "an assembly of good fellows,
> meeting under certain conditions."
>
> He adds that "the Greeks, social as they were, lacked this idea of a
> 'club'".
>
> 'clubbable' is a MODAL notion.
>
> So is 'unclubbable' -- such as it applied to Hawkins.
>
> Hawkins was described by one of the wits of the time as, “a pompous,
> parsimonious, insignificant drawl,” and given the living epitaph:
>
> “Here lies Sir John Hawkins, without his shoes and staukins.”
>
> Hawkins was out of the club in less than three years, after verbally
> attacking Edmund Burke one evening.
>
> Johnson passed the matter off, by remarking that Hawkins
>
> “was ‘unclubbable’ – curmudgeonly, tight-fisted and Pecksniffian.”
>
> ----
>
> It may be argued that UCL is, also, being 'unclubbable'.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Speranza
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