[lit-ideas] Re: Censorship
- From: Erin Holder <erin.holder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:12:56 -0400
Man, I never participate in class and if I do what I want to say is written
out in advance or the result of reasonable levels of intoxication.
Erin
TO
Quoting Robert Paul <robert.paul@xxxxxxxx>:
> Andy Amago wrote:
>
> > I have a question for Robert Paul. If you (Robert Paul) had a student in
> > your class who wasn't particularly talkative but did the work, would you
> > throw him out? I could see lower the grade, but you're suggesting
> outright
> > removal. All he did was post some, I thought, interesting articles that
> I
> > wouldn't have otherwise read. Not everything is equally interesting to
> > every person. It's curious too that 2 of the 3 faith-based people on this
> > list (Phil, Robert and Marlena) voted for removal instead of forgiving
> > trespasses.
>
> The question of 'throwing a student out' of class doesn't arise. The
> only reason for 'throwing someone out' would be for extremely disruptive
> or offensive behaviour. I've never 'thrown' anyone out of class in (if
> you count teaching past retirement) 43 years.
>
> If there is a clearly stated requirement which students understand from
> the outset, that what's usually called 'class participation' will be one
> factor in determining grades, then, yes, complete non-participation
> would count against a student?although it would never fail a student, in
> my eyes. Sometimes what Wittgenstein called providing 'a friendly
> presence' would be enough.
>
> I am not a 'faith based person,' whatever that may mean. Your so
> characterizing me is evidence that you might get a B- instead of a B,
> for not paying attention.
>
> Question for you: should this list simply become a site where people
> post links to other sites and never talk to one another?
>
> Robert Paul
> Reed College
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