Just to correct typo in title. Sorry. In a message dated 12/18/2004 8:15:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Jlsperanza writes: In a message dated 12/17/2004 4:03:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Two questions:- 1. Can a person imagine '2+2=4'? 2. Can a person imagine '2+2=5'? ---- I imagine it depends on the use of 'imagine'. It's a Latin word, but somehow imported into England via the Normans. Don't expect a monosemous path all along. Most likely, in English it is _misused_ (by Roman standards). As I perceive it, 'imagine' is a parenthetical verb. This class of verbs was first identified by J. O. Urmson, of Corpus Christi, Oxford. Things like, Your son, I regret, is dead. She will, I guess, succeed. Note that, sadly, Urmson's analysis applies only to the _first-person_ use of the respective verbs, yielding: 2+2 =, I imagine, 4. In America, due to what Horn calls 'neg-raising' (or negative transportation), a funny phenomenon took place, with the _negation_ of a parenthetical. Logically, what is negated is what Grice calls the radical. E.g. "2 = 2 = 4". But, in America, instead of imagining that it is not the case that "2 + 2 = 4", the colloquial idiom is to say that you _don't imagine_ that it is, yielding. 2+2 =, I don't imagine, 5. Etcetera. Fascinating question. Cheers, JL ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html