[lit-ideas] Brown and the misuse of 'fall'
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
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- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:23:51 -0400 (EDT)
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
Helm has been citing a couple of books (or 'couple books', as some say) on
the 'fall' of Rome and the 'barbarians' (or "Germans", as I prefer, since
my interest is into what has been called the 'latino-germano', or
'romano-germano' entities (like kingdoms, such as Odoacre's). The English
Wikipedia
does NOT seem to have a specific entry on that, i.e. on what I would call
the 'historiography', but the Italian Wikipedia does. So here I append a few
notes. There's this author, Brown, who says that 'fall' is NOT the word to
use! -- Cheers,
The Wikipedia entry in Italian on the historiography of the late Roman
empire makes some interesting reference to various authors.
_http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduta_dell%27Impero_romano_d%27Occidente_(sto
riografia_ (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduta_dell'Impero_romano_d'Occi
dente_(storiografia) ).
This is the section on Brown:
"Diversa la concezione di BROWN che nell'opera "La Nascita dell'Europa
cristiana" (1971) negò la decadenza e rovina dell'Impero, affermando invece che
più che un crollo era avvenuta una grande trasformazione, iniziata con le
invasioni barbariche e proseguita dopo la caduta formale dell'Impero
d'Occidente con i regni romano-barbarici; egli sostiene che tale
trasformazione
sarebbe avvenuta senza rotture brusche, in un clima di sostanziale
continuità."
There are also references, more or less in chronological order, to BRUNI
(1370-1444), BIONDO (1392-1463), BOSSUET (1627-1704), TILLEMONT (1637–
1698), Montesquieu (1689-1755), VOLTAIRE (1694-1778), GIBBON (1788), HERDER
(1774), Niebuhr (1776-1831), Hegel (1770-1831), Burckhardt (1818–1897),
Seeck(1984), ENGELS (1884), WEBER (1896), FRANK, NILSSON, PIRENNE (1862–1935),
ROSTOVTZEV (1926), MAZZARINO (1916–1987), GOFFART, HEATHER, and BRYAN (2008).
Cheers,
Speranza
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