Lawrence: Over here we are all Americans once we become citizens -- where we were born is irrelevant. Sorry Lawrence. I wish this were true. Neither I nor my parents nor sister were born here. But my sister and I are the only immigrants of whom this is true. It used to be true of some of my Muslim friends. This ended more or less when the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. One of my friends is in her 70s and she is still very tied to Muslim culture, although she, like most people she knows, would never go back there to live. She was born here. But tied to both cultures. She speaks English and Arabic fluently. Her children, born here, want to have nothing to do with Muslim anything. This is the exception. Among many Muslims here, they go back to find a wife or husband. Keeps ties to the old country and family there. Which is the point. Veronica Caley Milford, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: British cab driver fights for Taliban in Afghanistan What, you distinguish amongst your citizens? I thought that was forbidden. Aren't they all British now, even though they might have been born in Afghanistan, Pakistan or someplace else? Over here we are all Americans once we become citizens -- where we were born is irrelevant. In my case my ancestors were all from England and Scotland albeit many generations ago, and while I am a loyal American now I would hate to see the homeland of my ancestors reduced to full-fledged dhimmitude. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judith Evans Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 7:35 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: British cab driver fights for Taliban in Afghanistan He's an Afghani, Lawrence, that's why he said his frtiends and family are there and -- he said -- that's why he's fighting there. Happy Thansgiving Judy Evans, Cardiff --- On Thu, 25/11/10, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] British cab driver fights for Taliban in Afghanistan To: "Lit-Ideas" <Lit-Ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, 25 November, 2010, 15:15 http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2010/11/british-cab-driver-fights-for-taliban.html How can I have a happy Thanksgiving when British cab drivers are killing Brits, Americans, and other NATO forces in Afghanistan? Lawrence ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3277 - Release Date: 11/24/10