[lit-ideas] Re: Brigette Gabriel again supporting Israel
- From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT)
One of the reasons I post articles is that I don't
always feel up to responding to Lawrence's and Stan's
posts. (Note that Gabriel talks about 1975. and the
Hezbollah wasn't even established until 1981, so
posting Gabriel's article could serve no purpose other
than enforcing a general prejudice against Arabs and
Muslims.) Thanks from delivering me on this occasion.
O.K.
--- Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> (re-post)
>
> SS>Brigette Gabriel's interview [below] points to
> the
> SS>fact that Arabs have behaved identically with
> SS>Christians in Lebanon. Why? They're not Arabs.
> SS>That's why. Period
>
> "Arabs". Not "Muslims", "Arabs". Yet surely
> Gabriel
> really means -- as she says later -- "Militant
> Islamic
> fundamentalist(s)"? Perhaps she thinks there's no
> difference. That's worrying.
>
> I mentioned what she said about 1975. I'll quote
> it:
>
> GB>When the Moslems and Palestinians declared Jihad
> on
> GB> the Christians in 1975 we didn't even know what
> GB>that word meant. We had taken them into our
> country, GB>allowed them to study side by side with
> us, in our GB>schools and GB>universities. We gave
> them jobs, GB>shared with them our way of life.
>
> note "taken them into our country". Lebanon was
> not,
> was it, a country that belonged to the Maronite
> Christians? (It wasn't.)
>
> The following is from aljazeerah. It accords with
> other accounts I've seen:
>
> >Lebanese Civil War:
> > In Dec. 1975, a group of Falangists (Phalangists)
> > killed about 200 Muslims in a reprisal attack for
> the
> > deaths of four of their own men. That is generally
> > seen as the event that sparked the civil war.
>
> Judy Evans, Cardiff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stan Spiegel
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:10 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Islam's Torture of Lebanon
>
>
> Brigette Gabriel says in her interview:
> "As one who knows what's in the hearts and minds of
> Arabs, let me
> [Brigette Gabriel] repeat what seems to be the
> hardest
> thing for
> world opinion to accept: The Arabs have no intention
> of having
> peace with the Jews period, exclamation point, end
> of
> discussion.
> No Jews can exist free and unencumbered in the
> Middle
> East. "What
> an outrage. How dare the Jews come back and live in
> our midst,
> make the desert blossom and create a country more
> advanced than
> any other in the Middle East. And they don't even
> have
> any oil?"
>
> Thank you, Judith, for the link to the interview
> with
> Brigette
> Gabriel [see the link below to the full interview] .
> It clarifies
> and strengthens the case against Hezbollah, but more
> than that it
> made me break into tears. Israel, like the
> Christians
> who lived
> in Lebanon, are infidels. That is the reason they
> have
> been
> targeted to be extinguished. Not because they've
> stolen the land
> from the Arabs.
>
> Over and over again, Omar repeats the same message:
>
> "We are supposed to buy the claim," Omar says, "that
> Israel is
> just a state like any state, no different from
> Norway.
> Well, it's
> not. Normal states do not occupy lands that do not
> belong to
> them. Normal states do not expel populations that
> don't belong to
> the right ethnic -religious groop and prevent them
> from returning
> indefinitely. Normal states don't invade other
> states,
> and they
> have their borders clearly designated."
>
> Over and over again it's been said (by me, by
> Lawrence, by
> Mike...) that Israel was the result of a two-state
> solution: part
> to Palestinians, part to Jews. The Arab world
> rejected
> that idea
> from the first second and declared war against
> little
> Israel.
>
> Brigette Gabriel's interview [below] points to the
> fact that
> Arabs have behaved identically with Christians in
> Lebanon. Why?
> They're not Arabs. That's why. Period.
>
>
> Judy Evans, Cardiff
>
>
>
>
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