Actually I have a different problem. I view the photos first either on my 17-inch laptop or 22 inch desktop monitor. When I see them in the reduced Blog presentations I often don't like them as well - or rather sometimes photos I like on my monitors don't look as well (to me) blog-sized. But I have never had the reverse happen. But yes the river has clutter, both the natural kind (dead branches & leaves) and the unnatural. The river isn't monitored and some people opt to dump trash down there. The one time I caught someone in the act I didn't realize what they were doing until the next time I was by that spot and saw the trash. I wonder if the authorities (whoever they are) would take any action if I photographed these people and their trash - probably not. In the photographic world cameras are being downgraded for what amounts to not being able to produce high-quality poster-sized photos. Those aren't the words used but my 5 megapixel E1 will produce quality as high as any camera in something like 7 by 10 prints. My 8 MP will produce larger prints and my 10 MP E-520 larger still. King of the hill is the Sony A-900 that has 24 MP, but if that camera produced 7 by 10 prints you couldn't tell the difference between those (in terms of Image Quality) and those produced by my E-1. Camera buyers like the idea of more Megapixels, but unless they are producing large prints they probably will never realize the potential of their higher MPs. Another important grade in the camera-review world has to do with ISOs. Unless a DSLR can take good photos in a dim room it is downgraded. This too is something most people won't use. Most outdoor photos are taken with ISOs from 100 to 400. Maybe when it is getting dark, ISO 800 is useful, but a modern top-of-the line camera will be rated for ISOs of 1600 and higher. If a modern camera produces grainy large photos at that ISO it is downgraded in the ratings. I played with my cameras at higher ISOs in dim light. Looking t the results on a computer monitor I would have rated the quality higher than the reviewers do, but they look at large prints, and I am not interested in producing prints But back to your point, some photographers try to blur the "clutter." I've done this when photographing some things like flowers, but if I want to keep "Depth of Field" then the clutter has to remain. The blurring is called "bokeh." I also experimented doing that with the dogs, but then one dog will be in focus and the other won't. Or a dog's head will be in focus and his rear end blurry. Nature photographers find that acceptable. I saw a photograph of a crocodile where the head was in focus but it became more and more out of focus as one looked toward the tail. Producing "good bokeh" is something photographers get praised for. Maybe when plants start to bloom I'll do a bit more of that. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:31 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Branches, 3-11-11 Here's something to puzzle over, Lawrence. Some of your photos -- some of these for instance -- I find intriguing but when I click on them for the larger size, I like them less. I've gone back and forth on some of them to confirm this. I think MAYBE it has to do with being able to see background or foreground "clutter" better in the larger pics and they distract me from what I liked in the smaller ones. Don't know, just passing that along as an observation. Mike Geary Memphis On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2011/03/branches-3-11-11.html Lawrence