I only read the blurb and that didn't entice me to read further. I had read or heard quite a long time ago that the NDE was replicated in the laboratory. That's why I said it's something that might be wired into the brain and tripped by death, or by however they did it in the lab. Damaging something while expanding it (i.e., drugs) seems a contradiction in terms. A different issue completely, but there's an impending huge problem with Mexican drug cartels along the border. They're an extremely sophisticated operation and growing fast, armed to the teeth with the latest guns and technology. It's fueled by American demand (we're the world's largest consumer), and, ironically, the wall they're building is making it worse by making it now lucrative for the drug cartels to recruit those crossing the border to carry drugs in with them. Drug demand is also growing very quickly in Mexico itself. I doubt too many people's consciousness has expanded because of it. Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: The article wasn't about drug use or expanded consciousness ( or unexpanded consciousness), it was about the causes of Near Death Experiences. The article argues that they're caused by glutamates or endorphins or a-endopsychosin and other chemicals produced BY THE BRAIN. Maybe you might want to read the article again. Meditation and yoga might well result in mental and physical changes that expand (I prefer 'alter') our *awareness*" as you suggest, but they do so by causing chemical changes in the brain. There's no reason to believe that ingesting psychotropic drugs won't have the same effect. Drug use might be dangerous to your health and welfare, but to dismiss the ability of certain drugs to expand consciousness is just wrong. It tells me that you haven't yet gotten your hands on the right drugs, that's all. Mike Geary Memphis --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.