Eric, I'm Russian (American, but Russian nevertheless) and I take exception to this. The Russians fought for their country. They did it willingly. They, stupidly, loved Stalin and loved their homeland, like anyone. They fought the Germans because they were invaded. They defeated an enemy that outnumbered them 2 to 1, that had superior equipment. Nobody does that who's coerced. The repatriation thing is true, but the people still fought to win, even civilians. As far as people being handcuffed, it's war, who knows. I don't doubt that all kinds of things happen in war. > [Original Message] > From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 9/10/2006 11:51:16 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Barnett's Blueprint for Action > > >>You still refuse to give millions of dead Soviet soldiers > credit for what they did for the world. Now that is serious. > > > I know several survivors of Stalingrad. Long before they > were captured by the Nazis, they understood that if they > were captured, it would mean a death sentence to them on > repatriation. Hence they did all they could to end up in a > Western DP camp after the war, and stay as far away from the > USSR as they could. > > Certainly the Soviets fought bravely and suffered immensely. > Yet it should also be noted that they were fighting under > extreme coercion. At Kursk for example, which Irene or > whoever cited, tankmen were handcuffed into their tanks, > their radios only capable of receiving signals. > > Would they have fought as bravely if they knew being > captured wasn't a death sentence? If they had conditions > where minor wounds took them out of the action? If they > could claim shell shock? Would they? Would anyone? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html