[lit-ideas] Re: Back in Gaza

  • From: Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:23:36 -0700 (PDT)

Just curious: since the Americans elected George Bush
in 2004. (even if the 2000. elections were stolen)
would that mean that terrorist attacks on Americans
are justified ?

O.K.


--- Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Omar's article is from OHMY News:
>
<http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=306104&rel_no=1
> >
>
http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=306104&rel_no=1
> -- It is apparently a response to an Israeli
> official who wrote, "'We have
> been attacked and bombarded for months and weeks"
> 
>  
> 
> Two terrorist organizations, Hezbollah and Hamas are
> attacking Israel, so
> what can Ramzy Baroud say in defense of this?
> 
>  
> 
> For one thing he wants credit for the Palestinians
> because they haven't
> managed to kill any Israelis with their rockets. 
> The Israelis are much more
> accurate and so deserve blame.
> 
>  
> 
> Good grief, what were the Palestinians thinking when
> they elected an
> Islamist Terrorist organization to run their
> country?  That has got to be
> one of the dumbest things any population has ever
> done.  Did they think that
> Hamas, who has sworn to drive Israel out of
> existence, who has never
> recognized Israel's right to exist was going to keep
> Palestine, located
> right next to Israel, out of trouble?  
> 
>  
> 
> Of course it's not the only time an Islamist group
> has taken over a country.
> It occurred in Afghanistan with well know results. 
> It almost occurred in
> Algeria.  It occurred in Iran and the final chapter
> on that debacle has yet
> to be written.  It indicates to me that the interest
> in Islamism,
> Fundamentalist Islam, the ideology developed by
> Maududi, Al Banna, Qubt and
> Khomeini has a widespread attraction in the Middle
> East.  It is further
> indication that Moderate Islam is not very
> influential.  As I said in
> earlier discussions, I see no evidence of moderate
> Islamic scholars speaking
> out any place in the Middle East.
> 
>  
> 
> A nation that elects an Islamist Terrorist
> organization to run its country
> is identifying with the goals of that organization,
> whether it knows it or
> not.  Hamas subscribes to the goals of Sayyid Qutb. 
> Read about them in
> Andrea Nusse's Muslim Palestine, the Ideology of
> Hamas.  They want to
> destroy Israel and any other infidels (including
> Arab officials who don't
> agree with them) who get in their way.  Violence is
> their means of promoting
> their ideology.  Baroud's frequent reference to the
> poor innocent
> Palestinians seems especially ironic in light of
> whom the poor innocent
> Palestinians chose to run their country.
> 
>  
> 
> Omar appended a paragraph with a short bio and an
> Amazon.com reference to a
> book Baroud wrote.  Baroud has written several
> books.  For example,
> Searching Jenin by Ramzy Baroud (preface by Noam
> Chomsky).
> 
>  
> 
> I suppose if one reads every article Omar posts, one
> will eventually read
> every articulate Leftist, Anti-American,
> Anti-Israeli, pro-Militant-Islam
> writer who has ever written.
> 
>  
> 
> Lawrence
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Omar Kusturica
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Back in Gaza
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Why is Israel Back in Gaza?
> 
> by Ramzy Baroud  
> 
>  July 19, 2006 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> The disparity between Israel's public narrative and
> 
> its actual intents cannot possibly be any more
> 
> palpable than in the current Gaza onslaught
> following
> 
> the capture by Palestinians of an Israeli solider
> near
> 
> Gaza in a daring June 25 raid on a military post. 
> 
>  
> 
> "Anybody who calls this operation disproportionate
> has
> 
> no clue about the facts on the ground. We have been
> 
> attacked and bombarded for months and weeks,"
> Yitzhak
> 
> Herzog, the Israeli cabinet secretary, said,
> 
> responding to what some media described as "an
> 
> increasing international concern" over the Israeli
> 
> reinvasion of parts of the Gaza Strip and the
> 
> subsequent high death toll. Shortly after Herzog
> made
> 
> his comments, the death toll among Palestinians as a
> 
> result of the Israeli action rose to 52, mostly
> 
> civilians. However, numbers can hardly communicate
> the
> 
> humanitarian crisis underway as a result of the
> 
> Israeli siege and bombardment. 
> 
>  
> 
> The Israeli official was reiterating a new mantra
> 
> adopted by the Israeli government, aimed at
> silencing
> 
> any serious criticism of the Israeli military and
> its
> 
> deadly practices in Gaza. Such rebuttal however,
> 
> seemed overly exaggerated, considering that no
> 
> serious, or at least meaningful international
> 
> criticism of the Israeli raids in Gaza, dubbed by
> the
> 
> ever poetic Israeli army as "Summer Rain." The
> Israeli
> 
> one-sided war was exasperated by the fact that
> 
> Palestinians have been under a long economic siege
> 
> which was tightened even further with the election
> of
> 
> Hamas to power last January. 
> 
>  
> 
> The Gaza Strip, a stretch of land that hardly
> exceeds
> 
> a few kilometers in length and is much smaller in
> 
> width has always been the home of the poorest of
> 
> Palestinians, with living conditions that speak of
> 
> utter misery, and can only be compared to the
> poorest
> 
> countries in the world, despite Gaza's highly
> educated
> 
> population. 
> 
>  
> 
> Israel insists that its operation is not intended to
> 
> harm the civilian population, but to root out and
> for
> 
> good the so-called terrorist elements that use the
> 
> civilian infrastructure to attack adjacent Israeli
> 
> towns with rockets. It also says that it will not
> 
> cease its 'military activities' in the area until
> its
> 
> captured soldier is returned home safely and without
> 
> conditions. 
> 
>  
> 
> Israel's demands, without proper context - sound
> 
> reasonable, to say the least. Israeli and US media
> 
> commentators agree; their overall assessment is:
> 
> Israel doesn't want to set precedent by giving
> 
> terrorists an incentive to carry on with their acts
> of
> 
> terror, and Israel's favorite mantra, any democratic
> 
> country would do precisely what Israel has done to
> 
> secure its citizens. 
> 
>  
> 
> Again, the historic role of the media, that of
> 
> completely acknowledging and sympathizing with
> Israeli
> 
> concerns, while regularly disregarding Palestinian
> 
> concerns as unworthy, continues to perpetuate with
> 
> equal force and tenacity. Thus the only relevant
> 
> context, as far as the Western media is concern, is
> 
> that context instructed by Israel, who, in turn,
> 
> wishes to convince everyone that the above demands
> are
> 
> indeed the real reasons behind its bloody Gaza
> 
> onslaught. 
> 
>  
> 
> If the military's intentions are indeed to "root out
> 
> terrorists" as Israel tirelessly asserts, then why
> 
> insist on pursuing the same detrimental policies -
> 
> those of siege, isolation and overt militarism -
> that
> 
> deprive Palestinians of any sense of hope that Gaza
> 
> could finally become an economically viable, truly
> 
> independent polity? Why push desperate Palestinians
> -
> 
> through endless assassinations and targeting of
> 
> civilians in broad daylight to embrace vengeful
> 
> notions and counter- violence? 
> 
>  
> 
> I say, "notions" because the so-called Palestinians
> 
> rockets, as ominous as they may appear on
> television,
> 
> are yet to claim one Israeli casualty for over a
> year,
> 
> while the Israeli military has killed over 150
> 
> Palestinians in the last two months alone. 
> 
>  
> 
> But how about the captured soldier? Is that not a
> 
> legitimate grievance? It would be if it was not
> Israel
> 
> who insisted on creating utterly perilous
> 
> circumstances under which it places not just its
> 
> soldiers, but also its civilians. For example, Gilad
> 
> Shalit - no matter how harmless the photos Israel
> 
> deliberately provides of him to the media - was
> taking
> 
> part in a murderous mission aimed at exactly that,
> 
> murdering Palestinians. In the seven weeks prior to
> 
> Shalit's capture, the number of Palestinians killed
> at
> 
> the hands of the Israeli military - i.e. Shalit's
> 
> equally innocent looking colleagues - approached the
> 
> 100 mark. 
> 
>  
> 
> Shalit however, was a soldier, trained to physically
> 
> and mentally endure difficult moments. But how can
> one
> 
> explain the transfer of nearly half a million
> Israeli
> 
> civilians to the Occupied West Bank and East
> Jerusalem
> 
> - in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention? How
> 
> could any responsible 'democracy' endanger its own
> 
> population by placing them in a war zone, while
> 
> providing Palestinians with every reason to seek
> 
> revenge and retaliation for their heavy losses at
> the
> 
> hands of the Israeli military? 
> 
>  
> 
> It's rather odd that the Israeli government is
> 
> painting this rosy media image for Israel, as a
> nation
> 
> that would go to great lengths to save the life of
> one
> 
> man, while it puts the life of hundreds of thousands
> 
> of its people in great danger, notwithstanding the
> 
> total disregard for the life of all Palestinians. If
> 
> Israel's actions send any message, it's one filled
> 
> with hypocrisy and racism. 
> 
>  
> 
> But what does Israel exactly want? Is its bloody
> show
> 
> in Gaza aimed exclusively at the toppling of the
> 
> Hamas-led government? Or is it directed to at the
> 
> international community to further demonstrate that
> 
> Palestinians are no peace partner? Or perhaps it's a
> 
> message to Israelis themselves, to those who were
> 
> doubtful that a civilian government with little
> 
> military history - particularly the records of the
> 
> Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his Defense Minister
> 
> Amir Peretz - can prove equally ruthless? 
> 
>  
> 
> It's not clear where this Israeli experiment is
> 
> heading. But what is hardly unmistakable is that by
> 
> maintaining low intensity warfare in Gaza, Israel is
> 
> creating the perfect cover up to its army bulldozers
> 
> to partition the rest of the West Bank and Jerusalem
> 
> in accordance with the second phase of Olmert's
> 
> Disengagement Plan: which intends to slice up the
> West
> 
> Bank into various enclaves with no physical
> 
> continuity, and place its population under an
> 
> effective, long term, collective incarceration in
> 
> Bantustan-like areas, to be allowed or denied
> movement
> 
> at the behest of an Israeli solider. The plan is
> being
> 
> actualized in record time, yet few seem to notice, a
> 
> reality that Israel will strive to maintain. 
> 
>  
> 
> Despite the tragic events unfolding in Gaza, the
> truth
> 
> is Gaza never was and will unlikely to strategically
> 
> relevant to Israel's expansionist objectives. Gaza
> at
> 
> best - as has been the case for generations - is
> 
> simply grounds for Israeli military
> experimentations,
> 
> and at worst, a mindless killing field, where
> 
> Palestinians are forced to 'learn' the same lesson,
> 
> time and again. Indeed, the current Israeli military
> 
> 'operation' in Gaza is keeping true to expectations.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -Ramzy Baroud is a US author and journalist,
> currently
> 
> based in London. His recent book, "The Second
> 
> Palestinian Intifada: A Chronicle of a People's
> 
> Struggle" (Pluto Press, London), is now available at
> 
> Amazon.com. He is also the Editor-in-Chief of the
> 
> Palestine Chronicle.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 


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