Just curious: since the Americans elected George Bush in 2004. (even if the 2000. elections were stolen) would that mean that terrorist attacks on Americans are justified ? O.K. --- Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Omar's article is from OHMY News: > <http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=306104&rel_no=1 > > > http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=306104&rel_no=1 > -- It is apparently a response to an Israeli > official who wrote, "'We have > been attacked and bombarded for months and weeks" > > > > Two terrorist organizations, Hezbollah and Hamas are > attacking Israel, so > what can Ramzy Baroud say in defense of this? > > > > For one thing he wants credit for the Palestinians > because they haven't > managed to kill any Israelis with their rockets. > The Israelis are much more > accurate and so deserve blame. > > > > Good grief, what were the Palestinians thinking when > they elected an > Islamist Terrorist organization to run their > country? That has got to be > one of the dumbest things any population has ever > done. Did they think that > Hamas, who has sworn to drive Israel out of > existence, who has never > recognized Israel's right to exist was going to keep > Palestine, located > right next to Israel, out of trouble? > > > > Of course it's not the only time an Islamist group > has taken over a country. > It occurred in Afghanistan with well know results. > It almost occurred in > Algeria. It occurred in Iran and the final chapter > on that debacle has yet > to be written. It indicates to me that the interest > in Islamism, > Fundamentalist Islam, the ideology developed by > Maududi, Al Banna, Qubt and > Khomeini has a widespread attraction in the Middle > East. It is further > indication that Moderate Islam is not very > influential. As I said in > earlier discussions, I see no evidence of moderate > Islamic scholars speaking > out any place in the Middle East. > > > > A nation that elects an Islamist Terrorist > organization to run its country > is identifying with the goals of that organization, > whether it knows it or > not. Hamas subscribes to the goals of Sayyid Qutb. > Read about them in > Andrea Nusse's Muslim Palestine, the Ideology of > Hamas. They want to > destroy Israel and any other infidels (including > Arab officials who don't > agree with them) who get in their way. Violence is > their means of promoting > their ideology. Baroud's frequent reference to the > poor innocent > Palestinians seems especially ironic in light of > whom the poor innocent > Palestinians chose to run their country. > > > > Omar appended a paragraph with a short bio and an > Amazon.com reference to a > book Baroud wrote. Baroud has written several > books. For example, > Searching Jenin by Ramzy Baroud (preface by Noam > Chomsky). > > > > I suppose if one reads every article Omar posts, one > will eventually read > every articulate Leftist, Anti-American, > Anti-Israeli, pro-Militant-Islam > writer who has ever written. > > > > Lawrence > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Omar Kusturica > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:24 AM > To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [lit-ideas] Back in Gaza > > > > > > Why is Israel Back in Gaza? > > by Ramzy Baroud > > July 19, 2006 > > > > > > The disparity between Israel's public narrative and > > its actual intents cannot possibly be any more > > palpable than in the current Gaza onslaught > following > > the capture by Palestinians of an Israeli solider > near > > Gaza in a daring June 25 raid on a military post. > > > > "Anybody who calls this operation disproportionate > has > > no clue about the facts on the ground. We have been > > attacked and bombarded for months and weeks," > Yitzhak > > Herzog, the Israeli cabinet secretary, said, > > responding to what some media described as "an > > increasing international concern" over the Israeli > > reinvasion of parts of the Gaza Strip and the > > subsequent high death toll. Shortly after Herzog > made > > his comments, the death toll among Palestinians as a > > result of the Israeli action rose to 52, mostly > > civilians. However, numbers can hardly communicate > the > > humanitarian crisis underway as a result of the > > Israeli siege and bombardment. > > > > The Israeli official was reiterating a new mantra > > adopted by the Israeli government, aimed at > silencing > > any serious criticism of the Israeli military and > its > > deadly practices in Gaza. Such rebuttal however, > > seemed overly exaggerated, considering that no > > serious, or at least meaningful international > > criticism of the Israeli raids in Gaza, dubbed by > the > > ever poetic Israeli army as "Summer Rain." The > Israeli > > one-sided war was exasperated by the fact that > > Palestinians have been under a long economic siege > > which was tightened even further with the election > of > > Hamas to power last January. > > > > The Gaza Strip, a stretch of land that hardly > exceeds > > a few kilometers in length and is much smaller in > > width has always been the home of the poorest of > > Palestinians, with living conditions that speak of > > utter misery, and can only be compared to the > poorest > > countries in the world, despite Gaza's highly > educated > > population. > > > > Israel insists that its operation is not intended to > > harm the civilian population, but to root out and > for > > good the so-called terrorist elements that use the > > civilian infrastructure to attack adjacent Israeli > > towns with rockets. It also says that it will not > > cease its 'military activities' in the area until > its > > captured soldier is returned home safely and without > > conditions. > > > > Israel's demands, without proper context - sound > > reasonable, to say the least. Israeli and US media > > commentators agree; their overall assessment is: > > Israel doesn't want to set precedent by giving > > terrorists an incentive to carry on with their acts > of > > terror, and Israel's favorite mantra, any democratic > > country would do precisely what Israel has done to > > secure its citizens. > > > > Again, the historic role of the media, that of > > completely acknowledging and sympathizing with > Israeli > > concerns, while regularly disregarding Palestinian > > concerns as unworthy, continues to perpetuate with > > equal force and tenacity. Thus the only relevant > > context, as far as the Western media is concern, is > > that context instructed by Israel, who, in turn, > > wishes to convince everyone that the above demands > are > > indeed the real reasons behind its bloody Gaza > > onslaught. > > > > If the military's intentions are indeed to "root out > > terrorists" as Israel tirelessly asserts, then why > > insist on pursuing the same detrimental policies - > > those of siege, isolation and overt militarism - > that > > deprive Palestinians of any sense of hope that Gaza > > could finally become an economically viable, truly > > independent polity? Why push desperate Palestinians > - > > through endless assassinations and targeting of > > civilians in broad daylight to embrace vengeful > > notions and counter- violence? > > > > I say, "notions" because the so-called Palestinians > > rockets, as ominous as they may appear on > television, > > are yet to claim one Israeli casualty for over a > year, > > while the Israeli military has killed over 150 > > Palestinians in the last two months alone. > > > > But how about the captured soldier? Is that not a > > legitimate grievance? It would be if it was not > Israel > > who insisted on creating utterly perilous > > circumstances under which it places not just its > > soldiers, but also its civilians. For example, Gilad > > Shalit - no matter how harmless the photos Israel > > deliberately provides of him to the media - was > taking > > part in a murderous mission aimed at exactly that, > > murdering Palestinians. In the seven weeks prior to > > Shalit's capture, the number of Palestinians killed > at > > the hands of the Israeli military - i.e. Shalit's > > equally innocent looking colleagues - approached the > > 100 mark. > > > > Shalit however, was a soldier, trained to physically > > and mentally endure difficult moments. But how can > one > > explain the transfer of nearly half a million > Israeli > > civilians to the Occupied West Bank and East > Jerusalem > > - in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention? How > > could any responsible 'democracy' endanger its own > > population by placing them in a war zone, while > > providing Palestinians with every reason to seek > > revenge and retaliation for their heavy losses at > the > > hands of the Israeli military? > > > > It's rather odd that the Israeli government is > > painting this rosy media image for Israel, as a > nation > > that would go to great lengths to save the life of > one > > man, while it puts the life of hundreds of thousands > > of its people in great danger, notwithstanding the > > total disregard for the life of all Palestinians. If > > Israel's actions send any message, it's one filled > > with hypocrisy and racism. > > > > But what does Israel exactly want? Is its bloody > show > > in Gaza aimed exclusively at the toppling of the > > Hamas-led government? Or is it directed to at the > > international community to further demonstrate that > > Palestinians are no peace partner? Or perhaps it's a > > message to Israelis themselves, to those who were > > doubtful that a civilian government with little > > military history - particularly the records of the > > Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his Defense Minister > > Amir Peretz - can prove equally ruthless? > > > > It's not clear where this Israeli experiment is > > heading. But what is hardly unmistakable is that by > > maintaining low intensity warfare in Gaza, Israel is > > creating the perfect cover up to its army bulldozers > > to partition the rest of the West Bank and Jerusalem > > in accordance with the second phase of Olmert's > > Disengagement Plan: which intends to slice up the > West > > Bank into various enclaves with no physical > > continuity, and place its population under an > > effective, long term, collective incarceration in > > Bantustan-like areas, to be allowed or denied > movement > > at the behest of an Israeli solider. The plan is > being > > actualized in record time, yet few seem to notice, a > > reality that Israel will strive to maintain. > > > > Despite the tragic events unfolding in Gaza, the > truth > > is Gaza never was and will unlikely to strategically > > relevant to Israel's expansionist objectives. Gaza > at > > best - as has been the case for generations - is > > simply grounds for Israeli military > experimentations, > > and at worst, a mindless killing field, where > > Palestinians are forced to 'learn' the same lesson, > > time and again. Indeed, the current Israeli military > > 'operation' in Gaza is keeping true to expectations. > > > > > -Ramzy Baroud is a US author and journalist, > currently > > based in London. His recent book, "The Second > > Palestinian Intifada: A Chronicle of a People's > > Struggle" (Pluto Press, London), is now available at > > Amazon.com. He is also the Editor-in-Chief of the > > Palestine Chronicle. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html