On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I'm a bit surprised to learn that politics, marketing, creative cooking, > 'therapy,' anthropology do not make use of measurement and observation, and > that they all ignore empirical findings. Professor Paul, I am shocked. From what I wrote you learned no such thing. Perhaps I mistook you when you wrote yourself of experiments and equations, failing to realize that you had nothing more in mind than empirical observation and the sort of inference that goes on when, after a bit of palaver, businessman A says to businessman B, "Looks like a deal to me" or my wife says to me of something I've cooked "A bit too much salt." I had thought that, being a philosopher, you had something a bit more precise in mind, the sort of thing described in tomes on scientific method or books on number theory. More precisely, what I had in mind is a diagram from a discussion of general systems theory, where the author shrewdly observes that, from a scientific perspective the world is divided into three zones. One, at the bottom of the diagram, is the zone of mechanical explanations, where relationships are simple and experiments can be conducted. At the top of the diagram is the zone where statistical explanations work, given proper sampling based on independent observations. Most of the world, however, falls in the middle zone, where things are too complex for mechanical explanations and too interconnected for statistical sampling.The activity called philosophy appears to fall in there; but so do a lot of other things, which involve measurement, observation and thinking about empirical findings but would not ordinarily be considered either physical science or equations. Things like cooking a souffle, catching a muskrat, starting a business, ending a war, etc. That said, coming from my own disciplinary background, I still find the proposition that philosophy is an activity an interesting place to begin. It opens up all sorts of anthropologically interesting questions: Who engages in this activity? Why these particular people at this particular place in time? How do they identify each other and distinguish what they are doing as philosophy or non-philosophy? Why does the Reed philosophy curriculum include courses on metaphysics and epistemology but not anime, accounting or aromatherapy? There is, perhaps, evidence that bears on these questions in Walter's definition of philosophy as " a transcendental form of inquiry into the apriori conditions necessary for the possibility and limits of specific discourses and competencies." Here we might note any number of interesting assumptions, e.g., a perspective above and beyond the fray, from which the philosophical umpire can determine the rules of whatever language game has caught his mind. We may wonder at the premise that the language games in question are divided into specific discourses and competencies whose possibilities and limitations can be precisely defined, when the the language games we play seem much more changeable and much more muddled than that. Assumptions and definitions, sure bet, we can't get along without them. Can't play a game without some rules. But they all wind up seeming somewhat askew, leading people, including philosophers, to go on tinkering with them. But, for all this niggling, Walter's definition at least gives us another place to begin: not experiments, not equations, transcendental inquiry. Everyone here on board with that? John John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/