[lit-ideas] Re: At War with Ourselves
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:18:35 +0000 (GMT)
--- Lawrence Helm <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Judy,
>
>
>
> France at the leadership level believes in
> multiculturalism.
Lawrence, France (officially) believes in
assimilation/integration/colour-etc. blindness. It is
also officially secular. It does not permit any form
of ethnic or religious clothing to be worn in schools.
This is simple well-known fact.
> Furthermore, much of
> France has fancied that they have a special
> relationship with Arabs given
> their long term love for their former colony,
> Algeria.
Former Algerian Arabs living in France could tell you
differently, Lawrence. (Have you ever talked to one?)
They mourn for it as
> Arabs mourn for Andalusia. The French opposed the
> U.S. on Iraq partly
> because they loved Arabs and partly because some of
> them had an intimate
> relationship with their buddy Saddam Hussein.
(The UK is historically a pro-Arab nation) PROOF?
> Hanson is a scholar and not likely to rely solely
> upon Newspapers for his
> information on France,
My suggestion is that he does not even look at them..
but my impression is that
> what has appeared in them
> on France over the months has been a stolid
> adherence to failed policies.
of opposition to multiculturalism, of a failure to
implement integration
(But Victor Hanson David seems to think otherwise)
> Multiculturalism hasn't worked,
It's time you defined "multiculturalism" so I can work
out why you think France's policies were
"multicultural"
appeasement hasn't
> worked,
Ah -- I should have expected "appeasement". I take it
the UK can't be accused of that (though the French
Secret Service -- sorry, Intelligence Service --
probably do accuse us of appeasement of Muslim
militants) given our part in the War on Iraq. Yet we
are one of the most "multicultural" nations in Europe.
(That isn't the reason for 7/7.)
and proffering
> friendship hasn't worked.
we shall see
>
> But I too (along with Hanson) have noticed a slow
> change in European
> attitudes toward the Islamist problems. Had the
> Islamists attacked only the
> U.S. and left the Europeans alone, the Leftists
> around the world would more
> and more vocally blame the U.S. for the Islamists
> attacks against it. But
> the Islamists aren't that smart or well organized.
> Like one of the animals
> in an Aesop Fable they must kill because that is who
> they are. If they
> can't kill Americans then the French will do just as
> well. An infidel is
> after all an infidel.
I suggest you read a little about the French riots.
Judy Evans, Cardiff
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