[lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler problem?
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "lit-ideas" <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:43:57 -0400
Holy defensive statement, Batman, I think you've been spending too much
time hanging upside down in your Batcave. Or, that's the way philosophers
talk. Wait, I think I just used a disjunctive premise. Therefore, I am
not a philosopher. Or view the world upside down. Or, never mind. Yes,
okay, now, moving along in my Batmobile, what specific question does Erin
need explaining? My explanation of her non-question is, humans are
emotional creatures. Human morality is based on what we feel. We feel
Saddam is on our side, we sell him mustard gas, so clearly that's moral.
We feel Saddam is against us, so we take him out. Clearly that's moral
too, since we're doing both actions. So, what is it you don't get about
morality being an academic construct? I'm using the word academic loosely,
as in something we read in a book that is irrelevant if mildly interesting
to some people.
The mind of man is so constructed that it is taken far more with disguises
than with realities. Holy Erasmus, Batman! Did I say that?
> [Original Message]
> From: <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 6/25/2006 11:25:01 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
problem?
>
> I'm not clear on how the disjunctive conclusion follows from the
conjuctive
> premise. We seem to have markedly different understandings of the term
> "therefore." Is it simply stylistic in your usage? OK, now I'm really off
to
> watch the footballers.
>
> W.O.
>
>
> Quoting Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Morality may be grounded in rationality, but rationality is subservient
to
> > the emotions. Therefore, morality is either grounded in the emotions or
> > it's an academic construct. Maybe that's why humanity talks a good line
> > about morality while their behavior is downright venal. And that's on a
> > good day. On a bad day ...
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: <wokshevs@xxxxxx>
> > > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: 6/25/2006 10:38:57 AM
> > > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Aren't you glad you no longer have a Hitler
> > problem?
> > >
> > > Quoting Omar Kusturica <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > > snip
> > >
> > > > If
> > > > two men both in principle endorse horrible violence,
> > > > then the only moral criterion that remains to
> > > > distinguish between them is that one was prepared to
> > > > live up to his principles, while the other was not. I
> > > > stand behind what I said in the above, but within its
> > > > proper context.
> > > >
> > > > O.K.
> > >
> > > Irrational consistency cannot constitute a moral criterion since
morality
> > is
> > > grounded in rationality. The perceptually challenged baseball umpire
who
> > always
> > > calls a pitch two inches below the strike zone a strike is acting with
> > perfect
> > > consistency. (Source: Habermas or Larmore, I think.) It remains the
case,
> > > however, that he should not be an umpire.
> > >
> > > (But then is it still true that, in the words of one
> > epistemologically-oriented
> > > umpire: "They [the pitches] ain't nuttin' til I calls 'em."?)
> > >
> > > Rooting for Deutschland ueber alles,
> > >
> > > Dr. O.
> > >
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