In a message dated 4/29/2009 7:21:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: And, if so, is this right or wrong? And, if not, how do we explain away certain statements therein? ----- I wouldn't say _necessity_ although there is something to it. I think it's the mechanism of _tautology_ rather. In the context of atomism, "My brother fought in the war", "My brother lost an arm". These are two 'atoms', p & q. we Conjoin them. The order is inessential for Wittgenstein, "My brother lost an arm. He fought in the war". equivalent to "My brother fought in the war. Lost an arm". p & q truth table p q 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 "p & q" is only true when both p and q are true, i.e first row there. So we say, 'p & q' is a tautology. ------ The mechanism behind is not as simple and involves premise and conclusion, and metalogical symbol, 'therefore' or _ergo_. The premises are "p" and "q", and "p & q" is the conclusion. Now there is the method of the ASSOCIATED MATERIAL CONDITIONAL for a tautology. To check the TAUTOLOGICAL status of a tautology you need to CONJOIN the premises (and turn them into the antecedent of a conditional), with the conclusion as the consequent of the same conditional. That conditional itself has to be a tautology: p & q -> p & q which is a tautology of the form, p --> p p --> p 1 1 0 0 i.e. true regardless. In this scheme we do not really need to speak of 'necessity', which this type of system restricts to a specific operator -- the square, [ ] -- and which operates over 'possible worlds'. It's trickiest when involving individual and predicates. Aa for example a has attribute A suppose a is Jehova and A is overpowering. Jews may want to say that G-d is almighty. The predicate, 'almighty' applies necessarily to G-d. God is not just almighty he _has_ to be almighty. So they symbolise that by [ ] Aa i.e. there is no possible world such that a is not A. Perhaps in an analogous way we could say, 'there is no possible world where 'p & q' is true in circumstances _other_ than p and q being both true'. Maybe some chemist may want to say, that 'orange' is not really 'red and yellow'. Or Darwin that man is not really 'slow ape'. Or that Russell and Whitehead _wrote_ the Tractatus, therefore Whitehead wrote the Tractatus. In this last case above, 'and' notably works in contexts _other_ than 'atomic' formulae of the type Wittgenstein was interested. "Russell and Whitehead wrote the Tractatus" should be regarded as a _simplex_ because it's not really equivalent to "Russell wrote (in part) the Tractatus" and "Whitehead wrote (in part) the Tractatus". It's rather more like a cheap custom never known to the Greeks. Imagine if Homer wrote in part the Homeric Hymns with Hesiod! Cheers, JL **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html