only in a country of buffons there could be an established religion...and it is caleld beign english...On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote:
In a message dated 9/19/2010 5:17:37 P.M., ritchierd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: On Sep 19, 2010, at 12:25 PM, John Wager wrote:Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx wrote:--- Herbert's wife (Grice's mother) was a High Anglican. (She was an aristocrat -- nee Mabel Fenton). I take it that she was, therefore, likely to have been anantidisestablishmentarian?An antiantidisestablishmentarianologist, I cannot approve."In a country with an established religion (e.g. England), "antiestablishmentarianism" means support for the end of the special status of the established religion. In the 1800s, some English people opposed a movement to disestablish as the church exclusively recognized by the government as the official religion of the country. That countermovement was antidisestablishmentarianism. Antidisestablishmentarianism is usually cited as the longest word in the English language, but according to some definitions it is exceeded by several others." Yes. Plus, she saved Grice's life, most likely. As Grice's biographer (S. R. Chapman) writes: "Herbert Grice [Grice's father, also called, like his son, Herbert Grice] is described in his son [Herbert Grice, the philosopher]'s college register as 'business, retd.'. In fact, he had owned a manufacturing business making small metal components that prospered during the Great War. When the business subsequent began to fail [after the Armistice], Mabel [Grice's mother, an antidesestablishmentarianologist] stepped in to save the family finances by taking in pupils [NOT in philosophy. It was a prep]. She [charitably] included [her own son, Herbert Grice, the philosopher] in this miniature school. This reversal of roles explains Herbert's [Grice's father, also called "Herbert", like his son] early retirement. After the failure of the manufacturing business [due to Peace], he [Grice's father, Herbert, the non-conformist] did not attempt another venture, preferring, instead [as if this were not a venture -- how materialist can S. R. Chapman be?] to concentrate on his skills as a concert cellist. His musical talent was inherinted by his son [Herbert, the philosopher -- as Geary's musical talent was inherited from his [Geary's] mother -- surely musical talent is a matter of heritage, no?]." ---- Grice's musical talent is evidenced in the many songs that he mentions as regards implicature: "She was poor but she was honest" ---- this for Grice carries a 'conventional implicature' to the effect that honesty and money are NOT hand-in-hand. "You're the cream in my coffee" -- this for Grice has to be interpreted as 'metaphoric' (rather than "as per the explicature, that the addressee is a white liquid substance"). "Every nice girl loves a sailor" -- this for Grice has to be understood as 'hyperbolic' and with a substitutional distributional account of the object-quantifier, 'a' sailor. It's not ONE same sailor that every nice girl loves, but SOME sailor (or other). Oddly Grice was R. N., so that's the tar that was that was loved by all the nice girls. Etc. Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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