You, Lawrence, asked me what civil rights had been lost. I replied, and you ignored my
reply.
So now you try to change it back to "militant Islam". "Wolf! Wolf! Lookie! Wolf!"
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No, no. That isn't what we were doing. We were talking about the threat of the Militant Islamists and several of you presumably because you had no arguments worth voicing decided to change the subject to something you felt more comfortable with: Civil Rights, and so exalted the subject and neglected the original subject. Then you introduced this journalist who criticized our efforts by saying that what we ought to do is something we are already doing; so naturally I questioned his information. You were a little over anxious in wanting to produce a "gotcha" and got yourself. And now apparently you are attempting to recoup your lost face (do pacifists worry about lost face or is that only Leftists?) by some innuendo that clearly misses any mark I'm aware of.
I have written voluminously on the ideology of Militant Islam. If you missed something I'm sure the archives will help you. But what is it you want to know? If I won't be repeating myself to any great extent I'll help you out. You seem a little off balance, but do your best.
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Ward Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:26 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Amis Antithesis
So you've deftly avoided the issue once again Lawrence.
There we were discussing the ideology vs experience/perception issue, and then suddenly we're argiung about the attributes of one journo. Deft Lawrence. Really deft.
So, just to take matters back a touch, I'll repeat the quote from your previous post.
"Zawahiri's text is based upon Qutb, and it is going to help prepare minds to react and take offense in accordance with what Qutb and people like Zawahiri have prepared them for?"
React to what Lawrence? Take offense to what? If it's all ideology, if the west is so evil, what is there to react against.
Don't be shy Lawrence.
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From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:14 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Amis Antithesis
Were you laughing? I guess my own laughter drowned it out. So that's your answer: He doesn't live in a vacuum and knows by osmosis what everyone else knows. And therefore knows this thing that he apparently doesn't know, namely that the Army Corps of Engineers continues to build and be appreciated by the local Iraqis -- but not it would seem by your osmotic journalist.
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Ward Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:14 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Amis Antithesis
Don't like being laughed at Lawrence?
Anderson is an established journo writing for the New Yorker. These guys don't live in a vacuum. They have contacts, they write books, they get paid for it. Sure this one might not fit in with your politics, but give him some credit.
At least he's been there. Have you?
Simon
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