[lit-ideas] Re: After August 22
- From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:41:43 -0700
Gosh, I missed all that. Warn mongering? What war was mongered? Scare
mongering? I wasn't scared, were you? Mob inciting? Mobs? I missed all
those mobs as well. You concluded "nothing changes that." Gosh, "that"?
What the heck is "that"?
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:26 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: After August 22
The fact remains that August 22 was a complete war mongering, scare
mongering, mob inciting fabrication. Nothing changes that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 8/23/2006 12:09:22 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: After August 22
Irene, I know you cant read very well and but when quotation marks are
around something it means something is being quoted. Now what might I be
quoting? Hint: the article that you are ostensibly responding to. It is
right there in the article. You didnt need to make up an insult to account
for it. The reference wasnt Mike Wallaces interview -- mea culpa. It
was a MEMRI report -- as the article you were responding to indicates.
Further hint: the MEMRI report below is not unrelated to this paragraph.
It includes the subject Ahmadinejad quote.
Lawrence
Clip No. 1241
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: The U.S and England Are Not Worthy of
Security Council Membership. Those Who Want Good Relations with the Iranian
People Should Bow and Surrender to its Right and Might
Following are excerpts from a speech delivered by Iranian President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, which aired on Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 15, 2006:
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: When they talk about a "New Middle East," they mean a
Middle East that is held captive by America, England, and the Zionist
regime. When they talk about a "New Middle East," they do not mean progress,
development, independence, or freedom for the countries [of the region].
They oppose independence, freedom, and progress. Look at Iraq, Palestine,
Lebanon, and other places. I say to them: The peoples of the region have
awakened. It so happens that our peoples are also calling for a New Middle
East. The Middle East that our peoples want is a free Middle East, which is
not under the control of America and England.
[...]
Those who were involved in planning this barbaric attack, those who
supported this barbaric attack, and those who prevented the cease-fire are
accomplices in the crimes of the Zionist regime, and must be placed on
trial. To be more specific, America and England purport to support human
rights, freedom, and democracy. When a cat's leg is run over by a municipal
vehicle in some city, they hold a mourning ceremony. But they had the
audacity to postpone the cease-fire for at least three weeks. They
explicitly declared that the Zionist regime should be allowed to crush the
resistance, and to occupy the land, and that [only] then would there be a
cease-fire. I want to declare loud and clear, so that the whole world will
hear: These two countries are not worthy of being members of the Security
Council.
[...]
If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future,
you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and
you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. If you do
not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender.
Lawrence
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From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:47 AM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: After August 22
Notably Lawrence's case is so indefensible he has to make up quotes. I saw
the entire interview, have it on tape in fact, and Ahmadinejad said no such
thing. You have reinforced the premise that the August 22 bit of scare
mongering embodies our approach to Iran. Thank you Lawrence.
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