I didn't notice that, David - I tend to 'read' what I expect to see! (not that I knew Mirembe was there, I thought she was in Qatar). (I just checked. Yes, the NYT got her name wrong.) Judy Evans, Cardiff ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ritchie To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: A rose by any other name... Did they really get Mirembe's name wrong? David Ritchie, prone to typos in Protland, Oregon On Sep 18, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Lawrence Helm wrote: Mike: I've read a few reports and see nothing that would justify your outrageous comment, Mike. My morning paper carries a New York Times article by Sabrina Tavernise, "Blackwater . . . had come under attack from Armed militants. The 'civilians' who reportedly fired upon by Blackwater professionals were in fact armed enemies, and Blackwater personnel returned defensive fire,' said Anne Tyrrell, a company spokeswoman . . . 'Blackwater professionals heroically defended American lives in a war zone. . ." "In the shooting on Sunday, initial reports from the U.S. Embassy said that a convoy of State Department vehicles came under fire in Nisour Square, a commercial area in western Baghdad that is clogged with construction, traffic and concrete blocks. One vehicle became 'disabled' in the shooting, officials said. . . ." "But two bombs exploded around the time of the convoy's passage, and Iraqis who were there said on Monday that guards in the American motorcade, which had apparently been stuck in traffic, began shooting in response. That appeared to be confirmed by the embassy's information officer, Johann Schmonstes. 'The car bomb was in proximity to the place where State Department personal were meeting, and that was the reason why Blackwater responded to the incident, . . ." "Mirenbe Nantongo, the embassy spokeswoman, said, 'Our people were reacting to a car bombing.'" I'm always interested in Leftists thinking processes; so I'd love to hear the steps you took to arrive at your position. As for me, it sounds like there were plenty of State Department witnesses to what happened -- as well as uninvolved Iraqis. The Blackwater people were protecting a convoy. If the Blackwater people did do something evil then you've got to assume a gigantic conspiracy involving all the State Department personnel and Iraqi bystanders to cover it up. Lawrence ------------Original Message------------ From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, Sep-18-2007 2:10 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] A rose by any other name... BLACKWATER -- has there ever been a more appropriate name for an evil enterprise? I predict that in the near future "Bush" will become a curse word even for conservative Americans. Then Cheney will to Leahy say, "Bush you." Mike Geary Memphis