[lit-ideas] Re: A Zlywchlvel By Any Other Name
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:32:58 EDT
In a message dated 4/6/2009 7:11:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Je ne parle pas Englais. Je ne parle jamais "sweet".
Jean-Michel du Geary
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Well, but can a rose _smell_ sweet? To me it can only _taste_ 'sweet'.
If you _smell_ sweet, you are using it 'metaphorically'. These type of
sense-variation phenomena fascinated Grice. Did you hear that there was a
rabbit
recently born with two noses. Are we right in calling the things 'nose'?
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So my point was Eco. His novel, "Il nome della rosa", Latin: Nomen Rosae. A
topic of universalia, etc.
Shakespeare got it right:
A rose by any other name would smell so sweet.
But that's an English expression. If we replace it with Japanese (to please
McCreery) we have:
A [INSERT-JAPANESE-FOR-ROSE] would smell so [INSERT-JAPANESE-FOR-SWEET].
Protocol experiment:
Have a Japanese smell it, and describe the aroma:
(i) Wow, it's sweet.
(ii) Puajj! It's bitter
(iii) It's bitter sweet
(iv) other.
(v) Can I taste it? I cannot decide on the basis of a _smell_ only?
How do you say "fart" in Hungarian?
Cheers,
JL
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