--- On Mon, 20/4/09, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: > donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx > writes: > Still don't quite understand what TLP means when it > asserts a 'proposition > is a fact' (rather than is _of_ a fact)? Perhaps > someone might explain. > ----- > > Well, perhaps Wittgenstein wasn't too serious on his > classical background. > > Ditto his brother. His harmonies many regard now as > 'simple'. > > In Latin, from the Greek, > > pro-positio > > is an _act_ of 'ponere', to put. > > positio is the noun formed out of the preterite > form. > > The Greek exact equivalent is 'thesis'. > > Now, 'pro' in Greek would come out as meta-thesis? > > Then there's > > pre-positio -- > > ad - positio > > sub- positio > > pre -- sub -- positio > > etc. > > Whereas 'fact' is slightly abused in Latin. It is > indeed from 'facere', to > make. As in 'orifice', to make a mouth or hole. > > So, that the sun rises from the east is not a _fact_ > (unless you are a > silly deist). > > It's not a pro-positio either. You _pro-pose_ when > you _say_ it. > > Cheers, > > JL Still don't quite understand what TLP means when it asserts a 'proposition is a fact' (rather than is _of_ a fact)? Perhaps someone might explain. Donal Dodging Googleearth London ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html