[lit-ideas] Re: 237 reasons? just do it

  • From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 19:16:35 -0500

I assumed it meant 'having genitalia', either those appropriate to females or to males or to both as sometimes occurs. I'm not sure if one can not 'have sex', -- sort of like a manikin? Just don't know. Biology can be bizarre. Why there's any "reason" for having sex seems to me to be very problematic -- reproduction? fun and games? relationship building? The question seems to assume some transcendental reason in the universe and I'm not good at those kinds of questions. I'm just glad that I have sex because it's fun -- sort of like Chuck Berry's old song "My Ding A Ling" for those old enough and shameless enough to remember it. Catholic priests are not supposed to do sex. But all the seminarians that I seminaried with seemed to have sex which creates problems when you have something but can't do anything about it. I'm glad I'm not a priest. When I was in high school, we all asked each other, "have you ever done it?" "how do you do it?" "boy, I'd like to do her!" Doing seemed to be the big thing back then, not having. Making do with what you have -- that was our concern. Still is.


Mike Geary
Memphis


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Such empirical data is quite ambiguous, at best ambivalent, without an
operationalized definition of "having sex." Awaiting further clarifications,

Walter O.
Department of Forms of Sexuality
The Academy of Platon
Athens

P.S. Sophists need not reply as having "a knack for it" provides no Socratically
justifiable account.

Quoting Andreas Ramos <andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

237 different reasons to make love...

yrs,
andreas
www.andreas.com



The Whys of Mating: 237 Reasons and Counting

(July 31) -- Scholars in antiquity began counting the ways that humans have sex, but they weren't so diligent in cataloging the reasons humans wanted to

get into all those positions. Darwin and his successors offered a few
explanations of mating strategies -- to find better genes, to gain status
and resources -- but they neglected to produce a Kama Sutra of sexual
motivations.

For now, thanks to psychologists at the University of Texas at Austin, we
can at last count the whys. After asking nearly 2,000 people why they'd had
sex, the researchers have assembled and categorized a total of 237
reasons -- everything from "I wanted to feel closer to God" to "I was
drunk." They even found a few people who claimed to have been motivated by
the desire to have a child.

The researchers, Cindy M. Meston and David M. Buss, believe their list,
published in the August issue of Archives of Sexual Behavior, is the most
thorough taxonomy of sexual motivation ever compiled. This seems entirely
plausible.

Who knew, for instance, that a headache had any erotic significance except
as an excuse for saying no? But some respondents of both sexes explained
that they'd had sex "to get rid of a headache." It's No. 173 on the list.

Others said they did it to "help me fall asleep," "make my partner feel
powerful," "burn calories," "return a favor," "keep warm," "hurt an enemy" or "change the topic of conversation." The lamest may have been, "It seemed
like good exercise," although there is also this: "Someone dared me."

The researchers collected the data by first asking more than 400 people to list their reasons for having sex, and then asking more than 1,500 others to

rate how important each reason was to them. Although it was a fairly
homogenous sample of students at the University of Texas, nearly every one of the 237 reasons was rated by at least some people as their most important

motive for having sex.

The results contradicted another stereotype about women: their supposed
tendency to use sex to gain status or resources.

"Our findings suggest that men do these things more than women," Dr. Buss
said, alluding to the respondents who said they'd had sex to get things,
like a promotion, a raise or a favor. Men were much more likely than women to say they'd had sex to "boost my social status" or because the partner was

famous or "usually 'out of my league.' "

Dr. Buss said, "Although I knew that having sex has consequences for
reputation, it surprised me that people, notably men, would be motivated to
have sex solely for social status and reputation enhancement."

To make sense of the 237 reasons, Dr. Buss and Dr. Meston created a taxonomy

with four general categories:

Physical: "The person had beautiful eyes" or "a desirable body," or "was
good kisser" or "too physically attractive to resist." Or "I wanted to
achieve an orgasm."

Goal Attainment: "I wanted to even the score with a cheating partner" or
"break up a rival's relationship" or "make money" or "be popular." Or
"because of a bet."

Emotional: "I wanted to communicate at a deeper level" or "lift my partner's

spirits" or "say 'Thank you.' " Or just because "the person was
intelligent."

Insecurity: "I felt like it was my duty" or "I wanted to boost my
self-esteem" or "It was the only way my partner would spend time with me."

Having sex out of a sense of duty, Dr. Buss said, showed up in a separate
study as being especially frequent among older women. But both sexes seem to

practice a strategy that he calls mate-guarding, as illustrated in one of
the reasons given by survey respondents: "I was afraid my partner would have

an affair if I didn't."

You can nominate your own reasons at TierneyLab. You can also submit
nominations for a brand new taxonomy: reasons for just saying "No way!"
Somehow, though, I don't think this list will be as long.

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