--- Scribe1865@xxxxxxx wrote: > > Maybe that's why John's question is so interesting > -- that the self in > violence is not the self at all. There are forms of violence that are, in their motivation and/or in the means of their execution, quite rational. My impression of people experienced in fighting, of whom I knew quite a few and fought a couple, is that they feel anger but have ways to control it as it were to serve their purposes. Similarly, I doubt that the experienced soldier is beside himself in a shooting. O.K. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html