http://bangalore.gnu.org.in/?VTU-FLOSS_Campaign FSUG-Bangalore | RecentChanges VTU-FLOSS Campaign Please Sign This Petition If you have any relevant points that could be added, and useful details, please include it at the bottom of the appeal. Don't forget to sign your name! Please pass this text around, urging your friends and fellow-students (other welcome too!) to sign-up. We need as many voices as possible. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Respected Sir, an appeal from the world of Free Software The Vice Chancellor Visvesvaraya Technological University Belgaum - 590 014 Karnataka State, India Respected Sir, Re: Opening wider software avenues for your students through Free Software. There are thousands of engineering and polytechnic colleges in India. Each year, a few hundred thousands of graduates and diploma holders earn their degree. They pay thousands of rupees as fees to get the best facilities. A part of this goes to buying the softwares which they use either in college lab or for doing their assignments at home. For every software which India's engineering students use; there is an alternate Free Software program available. Free Software(http://www.gnu.org/philosophy) offers freedom, accelerated possibilities and wider vistas to our students. But in a 'talent rich, resource poor' country like India, it is also an issue of costs. Huge amounts of resources will be saved, and productivity gained, while deploying Free Software. This will not only make engineering education more cost-effective, but also more productive. Free/Libre and Open Source Software has many other advantages such as reliability, performance and security; building up of long-term capacity within the state and country itself; the Free (as in freedom) philosophy; encouraging innovations; offering alternatives to illegal copying; throwing up many possibilities in localisation; helping students vastly by allowing them to learn from the source code; getting access to literally thousands of tools; in addition, of course, to lower costs. Issues related to Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) in education are outlined very well at http://www.iosn.net/education/foss-education-primer/ Other than cost benefits, Free Software has other extremely pertinent advantages. We would urge you to serious consider the following: * No-fee licensing * Ease of license fee management * Better large-scale programmability * Easier integration * Better performance * Development convenience * Better support Niranjan Rajani in a study on FLOSS in the developing world, notes, "FLOSS has a complementary and reciprocal relationship to education. One needs an educated section of the population to fulfil the full potential of FLOSS, and at the same time FLOSS helps, enhances, and complements education by providing tools to promote education." In the case of education in computer sciences, FLOSS provides opportunities which nothing else can, as the Finland-based researcher Rajani points out: * Unrestricted access to the source code. * An environment of unlimited experimentation and tinkering. * Collaboration and interaction with a community of programmers, coders and users around the world. In addition to providing ready and available tools, Free Software provides positive examples from projects around the globe. In practice, this means that if someone in some other place has created a tool to reach a specific educational goal, one can take it as a starting point and build on it, without the need to "reinvent the wheel". The Dspace project and the Koha library software, mentioned earlier, are but two simple examples of such possibilities. As far as collaboration is concerned, Sourceforge is perhaps the biggest collaboration project ever created, uniting tens of thousands of software projects and hundreds of thousands of people around the world. "FLOSS itself has been called the most collaborative human effort ever," as Rajani points out. In addition to the above, the inherent qualities of FLOSS make it a prime tool for achieving local language educational software, especially for languages which are not deemed commercially viable for proprietary software vendors. This has the scope of offering both relevance and employment to so many of your bright young students. There are literally hundreds of Free Software's programs which colleges or universities can adopt. As Vishweshwaraiah Technological University is one of the biggest engineering-related universities in India, its time for VTU to give the lead and move towards using Free Software. This would encourage other Universities to follow suit. Let the VTU have the pride to be the first one to adopt Free Software in educational curriculum, on a scale significant enough to make a difference to the future of VTU, its many students, and India itself. Here we submit some examples of few such alternative Free Software programs which can be used for technical education. * (1) Operating System: Windows v/s GNU/Linux Because of the software tools prescribed in the colleges, and also a general lack of awareness of Free Software options, most colleges use Microsoft Windows based operating system. Yet, in terms of technological features, stability, learning possibilities, the GNU/Linux is increasingly being recognised as the best available globally. It is the best suited for any educational institution. Students can not only use it, but also can study its source code to understand its internal workings. Likewise, they can easily get in touch with the many volunteers who have put together this amazing set of tools, and collaborate internationally to created more suitable products and also hike their own skill-sets. But many of the colleges use or have started adopting GNU/ Linux, starting with the server room, where it is well known for its stability and security now it has entered our labs and desktops. * (2) Simulation: Matlab v/s Octave Matlab is used in communication and electronics lab. Matlab for an individual license for use in a university (academic use) costs $500. Any college will have to buy a minimum of 25 licenses. This means shelling out Rs.537,500. Octave, which is a simulation software written by university professors. This usually comes, along and as part of, the GNU/Linux Operating System. The advantage to students is that they don't have to buy a limited student version to use at home. They can use Octave both at lab and at home. SciLab? is another Free Software competitor for Matlab. It uses sophisticated algorithms to analyse data and produce aesthetic graphics. NG-SPICE is another GPLd Circuit Simulator which is based on the University of Berkeley's Spice Version 3f5. * (3) Office software's: MS Office v/s Open Office Currently, we all used Microsoft Word to submit our project documents for review and for other academic purposes. Recent technological developments now mean that we have Open Office which is as good as Microsoft Office and has the same, if not better, features. Microsoft Office in fact lacks some features like PDF (Portable Document Format) support, compatibility with older versions of Microsoft Office, lack a vector drawing application, etc. Open Office gives you everything starting from a word processor, to presentation software to PDF generator. It is fully compatible with Microsoft Office -- so already existing data in those formats can be used. Don't you think it's the right time to save money and enhance efficiency of technological education in our country? The above are just examples. There are many such software programs from which the students can benefit. We hope the university understands the urgency and the need. We would be happy to give the university any information/help that is needed. Currently, India has a wide range of volunteer GNU/Linux support groups, a list of which can be found at http://wikiwikiweb.de/LugsList * (4) Computer Networks Subject Teaching: Ethereal, tcpdump, NS2 etc We use the above mentioned tools for the teaching of Computer Networks and Data Communication subjects. There are a number of other GNU GPLed tools which can be used in a number of other labs for teaching and learning. * (5) Content Management Systems: Drupal, PHP-Nuke etc For building websites and info portals for students to make online learning possible. In the world of online forums, Free Software have a number of free options. You could well imagine the impact that the accelerated spread of such easily-reachable and usable tools would have, not just on the engineers of tomorrow, but on the wider Indian society as a whole. * (6) VHDL : Xilinx v/s Alliance 5.0, gEDA the Xilinx software for VHDL simulation is available for individual systems,the Xilinx lacks in VLSI CAD systems, but the Alliance 5.0 is an EDA VLSI CAD, and has set of tools which meets the needs of academics and gives complete tools for VLSI design including support for VHDL as well as verilog support. gEDA is another set of free software which helps in complete design of electronics system. We thank you for your patient hearing, and urge your reputed university to take speedy and decisive steps in this direction. Thanking you, We remain, Yours sincerely, Please sign this petition * click this link [1] to enter your comments. * Enter your Signature in Text Box right below the _Start Here_ line. * Give your name in the 'Username' and Short 'comment' in summary box. * Kindly don't edit any other contents. * Click Save button. Start Here Please add you signature at the end of this list 1. Thejesh GN. Milwaukee USA. Former student of VTU [1BT98EC047]. March 01 2005 2. Rakesh 'arky' Ambati (Bangalore India) Fri Mar 11 11:19:57 IST 2005 3. Praveen Arimbrathodiyil (National Instititute of Technology, Calicut) Fri Mar 11 17:34:50 IST 2005. We use GNU/Linux in our main Computer center. It saves a lot of money of the college as there is no licence fee to be paid for each users. Since the source code of the softwares are available many computer science students do projects based on Linux kernel and other such projects. The possibility of use of thin-clients (which our computer center use) reduces the cost of hardware dramatically. It has proved to be beneficial to our college and I urge you to chose Free Software for giving a better alternative for students. 4. Frederick Noronha, Freelance Journalist, Goa, supporter and user of Free Software. Because sharing is a great idea, specially when it comes to easy-to-reproduce knowledge products! Please see FN's FLOSS links for links to some of my work in the field of Free/Libre and Open Source Software. 5. Benjamin Rualthanzauva , Chennai 6. Sridhar Ratna, Final year CSE student of CEG, Anna University, Chennai. 7. Krishna Pagadala, San Jose, USA. I have benefitted highly from the Free Software movement and the Freedoms it has provided. Specifically the Freedom to learn from the source code has helped me in getting a high-technology job in the US. I wish that all students enjoy the all the Software Freedoms. 8. shashidhar b desai ,6th sem E&C, B.V.Bhoomaraddi College of Engineering & Technology Hubli, Karnataka, India, FLOSS is an excellent alternative for the existing commercial softwares Academics(colleges and univ) is the best way to promote and support "Free Software".It will be a great initiative if the univ adopts it(it will become an example for other univ & institutes). News about open source and gnu/linux tuff---Indian Inside . Let's get Liberated.LONG LIVE OPEN SOURCE. 9. Pramode C.E, IC Software I would like to add that there are efforts under way to develop innovative hardware experimentation platforms using GNU/Linux to improve the quality of Physics (as well as Engineering) education; and the best part is that it's being done in India. Please visit http://www.nsc.res.in/~elab/phoenix/ to know more about the `Phoenix Project' being developed by Ajith Kumar at the Nuclear Science Centre, India. The wealth of high quality tools and the open nature of the platform is of immense value to young engineers and scientists raring to unleash their creativity; the lessons in freedom and sharing that students learn by using GNU/Linux will also go a long way in shaping their character as caring and responsible human beings. 10. Mairu Gupta, Ottawa (www.bluesprint.com) 11. Vivek Varghese Cherian, Bachelor of Engineering (Mech), former student of Kuvempu University, Shimoga, Karnataka. Free Software helps us to study, modify and distribute the source code released under the GNU General Public Licence(GNU GPL) which is a copyleft license which will help the student community learn how operating systems and applications work better than closed source code implementations. Moreover sharing of software will make more responsible technocrats who value free sharing of knowledge over narrow profit motives. You could also encourage students to release their project reports under the GNU Free Documentation Licence(GNU FDL), so that the entire student community can learn, modify and build up on existing projects reports submitted to the VTU under this license. 12. Debapriyo Sarkar. Final year student of BCA, Goa. As a student, I plead to every university, to adopt, encourage and spread the use of Free/Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS). The benefits are clearly far-more significant than cost savings (which of course is a huge motivating factor). The quality of software reviewed and worked on by virtually the entire developer community of the world is definitely at least world-class if nothing else. It is possible to save on costs with $0 priced closed source software often termed as freeware, but the limited resources of the single developer or the couple of developers behind the software makes future of such software bleak. Compared to that, software released under an open source license, helps user as well as developer involvement to happen as deeply and transparent as no other licensing model can support. As the letter includes the following (stripped) statement "...Octave, which is simulation software written by University professors. This usually comes with the GNU/Linux Operating System." which clearly shows that professors of universities elsewhere have contributed to the solution of making quality software available to the students and colleges alike under a license that welcomes further contributions to improve the project virtually endlessly. As a personal experience, I often have used open source alternatives whenever acquiring the proprietary packages meant depending on the lab assistant to provide the CD for illegal copying or genuinely going out and shelling out all those huge wads of cash for functionality that was already at my disposal with added advantage of continuing development and a long-life (of the software). As universities use and recommend use of open source software,rate of development is bound to grow with more and more students using the same version of software both at college and home (no limited cheap "student" edition which are "cheap" imitations with myriad "limitations"). Also professors' contributions in the form of bug reports, bug fixes, new functionality patches and their work in increasing awareness about the benefits of using open source software would help improve quality of free software to an enormous extent. 13. Suraj Kumar, Bangalore, India. 14. Vijay Kumar, Chennai, India. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/schools.html 15. Prashanth Mohan, Second year CSE student of CEG, Anna University, Chennai. 16.P.Sujeevan,Project leader, S2S2, Kerala .Here at kerala at school level more than 50 of schools are still using GNU/Linux.Also SSLC IT practical examination has successfully done under the linux operating system.Some schools are still using the Linux terminal server systems.Next year aggressive work is planning to implement complete linux environment in schools.http://s2s2net.netfirms.com 17.S.Varun, studying at MIT Chrompet, Chennai, India. 18. Joe Steeve, ME CSE (Thiagarajar College of Engg., Madurai). Free Software is a _must_ at Educational Institutions. When reputed institutions like yours acknowledge Free Software, other institutions would take you are a role model and follow. 19. Raman Krishnan, BE Final Year CSE, CEG, Anna University,Chennai, India. 20. Krishnakumar G [2], Bangalore, India 21. Syed Mazhar Mahdi, Bangalore, India 22. Toji Leon. http://tojileon.blogspot.com 23. Suraj Kumar Nair, Palo Alto, California, USA 24. Raghu Kodali, Bangalore, India 25. Shishir Alva, Toronto Canada. Former student of VTU. March 13 2005 26. Vasudevan Thrikkazhippurath, Bangalore - INDIA 27. Fajar Priyanto, from Indonesia. Why spend money on things that have their superior subtitution? I support this campaign wholly. Pls visit my linux website at http://linux2.arinet.org 28. Dong Calmada, Philippines. Vice-President of Philippine Linux Users Group (circa 1994). Free/Open Source Software is a solution for developing/underdeveloped countries to level the playing field internationally. http://foss.peace.net.ph. 29. Bejoy Abraham Mathews, Trivandrum, Kerala, India. Network Engineer (GNU/Linux) at a company called US Technology. Even though I'm not a student I would love to support this movement for all the students willing to learn Free Software. I have struggled the time that I wanted to learn this great concept but there was no one to guide me. God make this great thing happen in Bangalore. I've started a group site for the people from Qatar(Gulf). If anyone is willing they could join in and pool in their knowledge. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qglug 30. Nesmel Hussain E&C Engr - _ If u can Open your minds so y not the Source ! _ 31.Niteen kole Sr.system administrator ,I think it is one of the best option to go for linux,we have full network with five servers all working on linux ,with clients also working on linux,they are normal office people,we use open office ,mails,printers ....... every thing is going fine for last seven years with minimum down time. 32. Sunil Mohan Adapa, Hyderabad. Alumnus of IIIT - Hyderabad. Cost is just a small factor compared to the other factors like freedom. If students use a proprietory software, they can only learn just that - to *use* a software. Where as students using a free software have the freedom to learn the internals and modify the software for their own needs. Let us just take an example. Operating systems is one of the main courses in any cirriculam. Let us say, a student gets and idea for a new scheduling algorithm and he wants to try and implement it. If the world were to be filled with proprietory software, he will have to write an entire OS to test his own schedular. But in case of free software, he can take one of the free kernels (Linux, Herd, BSD etc.) and add his own schedular. To learn, there is no choise but to use free software. 33. Arjun Jain CSE Engineer, RV College of Engineering - The amount of FOSS we had in our syllabus (5th sem ncurses graphics editor, 7th sem networking) and the freedom to choose the platform in the other projects like Data base project where we could chose b/w MySQL? and Oracle was amazing. It was helped us a lot and now that we are doing our internship in the real industry, we realize how much important it was. I request you to increase the FOSS content instead to decreasing it! 34. Seow Yoke May, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia 35.Devesh 36.A. Chiremba Zimbabwe. I have not used Open/Free Source software but I anticipate to use it very soon. The workshops I have attended hosted by ITDG Africa have been an eye-opener. 37. Ramanraj. K. Chennai Using Free Software and open standards is rather a very elementary basic need for Institutions in pursuit of knowledge. Non free software have serious artificial blocks that prevent understanding and learning. In fact, it is anti-social and immoral to be teaching or exposing students to non-free software. The free software philosophy is even bringing in a sea of change, openness and honesty in the way curriculums are designed, research output is generated and published. It would be a very backward and retrograde step to even think of prescribing the use of non-free software in educational institutions. Please rectify the mistake as soon as possible, by rejecting non-free software, allowing full access to knowledge, skill and learning through free software. 38. Rahula Sharma, Programmer, India 39. Shashank Ashtikar, Team Leader, Pune, India Free Software is very necessary in schools and colleges since free software facilitates students to study and understand the software, rather than just be the end users of the software without knowing its underlying implementation details. With free access to source code and ability to modify and share the source code students can learn how software works, test their theories by making changes to the software, distribute and redstribute the modified software within peers and spread the knowledge This will help students in becoming far more knowledgable. 40. Pradeep Kumar N, Student Programmer, RVCE, Bangalore Free software is essential for us. It helps curb piracy too...to some extent... COnsider our needs. 41.Hitesh K Maisheri, Govt. Engg. College, Thrissur. We have been using GNU/Linux in our college labs for quite some time now. There are many students (including me) who are reaping the benefits in their career with this initial set up of GNU/Linux at college. GNU/Linux combination is real great. It offers you many advantages and no disadvantages at all. FLOSS (FOSS) both movements are here to live longest. Cheers for all these movements !! 42. This is the right way to go!!! Gaurav, RVCE 43. Go India Go!!! Ajay Soni 44.Sandep Garg, Student Programmer, RVCE, Bangalore 45. India can win software race only with free software DHarmendra Gupta 46.Banwari Lal Sharma (Software Developer, Bhopal) -- Yes It should be done. After all Open Source/FLOSS is the Community which can diminish the MONOPOLY of organizations such as Microsoft. They are sucking the world in terms of License Fee and other Fees. 47. Shakthi Kannan, Software Engineer, Specsoft, Hexaware Technologies, Chennai (http://www.geocities.com/shakthimaan). The industry has been using GNU/Linux for a long time. By bringing it to the academia on a large-scale it will help them and the industry in research and development. I strongly support the cause. 48.Vinay.V (Friend and ex-classmate of Thejesh at BTL Institute of Technology, Bangalore)Villingen, Germany 49. Baishampayan Ghose Student, Shivaji University, Maharashtra I completely / whole-heartedly support this campaign. I have used GNU/Linux and OpenOffice? whenever possible during my college. This helped me a lot when I got a job as a Embedded Systems Programmer at Siemens, Bangalore, which is using linux in many of its projects. Currently VTU is letting the students select the software required for any particular subject. But this is not enough. The problem is that not much of the teaching fraternity in VTU know about available FLOSS tools. I would request VTU to direct their colleges to train their faculties in FLOSS tools. 50. Vinay Yadav, CTO, vinayRas Infotech, Nagpur (http://www.vinayras.com/) Linux is the best solution for our country. Govt should come forward to support this. Education should not be bounded by any boundary - It should be Open. 51. Keshav V, 6th semister CS Student VTU. recomendation of FLOSS in syllabus will definetely reduce the investment in software in colleges. Also the freely available source code makes the students to understand how practically the theoritical concepts are implemented, let it be memory management in OS or 3D transformation of graphics object in a graphics package. 52. Gabin Kattukaran, General Manager, Mechelonic Engineers Pvt Ltd, Bombay I think software lincensing issues are relevant to everyone from Universities to Colleges to Students to Corporates just as they are to Individuals. In a time when India is striving to become a IT Major, it would be extremely unwise to be locked down to closed source solutions that force us to wear blinkers and see the world only as the mega-corporates of the USA want us to. This is especially true for students in their formative years when the limitations imposed on them will shackle them down for the rest of their carreers. 53. Vaibhav Prakash, post-graduate dept. of Space Sciences, Pune. any software should be free(as in freedom).One should have all the rights to change the software according to his needs. free Software is like Science, Einstien didn't pay Newton when he modified the laws according to the modern needs!!! 54. Thanikachalam Ananthakrishnan, Mumbai. Software should be *free* (free as in free speech). It has ample advantages. More references from http://www.gnu.org/ 55.Chetan Anand,CSE,RVCE."The Future is OPEN" - so goes a catchline of a worldwide software major which is now pioneering efforts in making FOSS popular as well as the adoption of FOSS as an industry wide standard.VTU, with its Vision 2020 outlined very clearly, now has to take the lead in becoming the first University in India to adopt,encourage and proactively support the Free Software Revolution,which will be an unparalleled pioneering step. 56. Zabil C.M, Bangalore (Alma mater NIT Calicut) I use Linux at work. The introduction to linux happened at my college, where we used linux for pratically everything. Now we have recently made the switch to linux at our workplace also. The benefits are inherent higher productivity, excellent community support, virtually all kinds of applications at absolutely no cost. For colleges and university Linux should be de-facto. 57. G. Sivakumar, Professor, Computer Science & Engineering, IIT Bombay. I fully endorse this petition. Along with CDAC and IBM, IIT Bombay is working towards a Resource Centre (OSSRC - http://ossrc.org.in/) that will help in such efforts. 58. Shailesh Mathur, System Administrator. We are using Linux at work for both servers and desktops. We feel more powerful when doing administration of Linux as it gives us complete freedom for making changes in any package according to our need and that also without paying anything to anyone. Whereas in Windows environment, we need to pay everytime, whether we are going for a new package, for its upgradation and even for their maintenance. Due to power of Linux most beggest companies have migrated and we have a good example of Om Logistics with us, who have saved around INR 200 crore per annum by migrating to Linux completely. 59. Anish Mathew, System Administrator, I have been using linux for the past 4 years both at work and at home. I struggled very hard to learn the nuances of this flexible OS. No one was there to guide me except the online support from websites and mailing lists. Thanks to Free Software Foundation and the world wide developer/user community for the extraordinary support and development of good competitor for windows applications. Let the coming generation get the chance to learn and grow with this huge software community. 60. Ajay Pal Singh Atwal, Lecturer, BBSBEC, Fatehgarh Sahib, Punjab (http://www.bbsbec.org): We use GNU/ Linux and related software for teaching and learning and for our various servers for our internet proxy (squid), websites (Content Management Systems: Drupal, Post-Nuke, PHPNuke, PHP-BB etc), email (sendmail, qmail, squirrelmail, courier), filesharing (samba) etc. I personally use DevC?++ (a GNU GPLed S/W) for teaching Windows Programming, and ethreal and tcpdum for teaching Computer Networks. I am very much satisfied and recommend the use of GNU GPL software. 61. Sameer Niphadkar, BE-CSE KJSCE Mumbai and SCLP Novell Inc : I have been using and advocationg to use GNU/Linux for the last 5 years now. I am myself very much satisfied by the performance of the OS as well as other FLOSS products. It would really be a positive step if the government and particularly the academicia adopts Free Software. 62. Ajit N. BE-CSE (RCETM, Madurai,TN) Using GNU/LINUX nurtures the engineering spirit. It is an industry grade operating system.It allows the user to learn about Operating systems and computer programming. Free software development projects enable a student to gain hands on experience in developing software. The guidance available is plenty and the Industry is already moving along the Free(as in Freedom) software way. It would be very helpful and a matter of pride to the students of this university if they are allowed to practise their trade in GNU/LINUX instead of the technically inferior, socially disruptive and market greedy MS WINDOWS and other restrictive licensed software in general. 63. Aveek Bhattacharya, BE Electronics, Final Year (RVCE Bangalore). I believe GNU/Linux is the epitome of the spirit of engineering. It allows you to tinker with the OS internals, as well as understand how it works. Besides, Free/Open Source software is generally available for a large variety of platforms, including MS Windows. A first step would be to move from commercial packages, costing quite a lot of money, to equivalent Free/Open Source software packages, while retaining the OS. This phased transition allows the system administrators, faculty and students to get familiar with the software. Incidentaly, I run only GNU/Linux on my PC. 64. I insist using free softwares at centres, which also helps the student in his career and work place to use free softwares which also reduces his individual expenses 65. I have benifitted from open source. I am a student and i cannot afford to pay exhauburant sum for a propritery software. Please sir do consider open source/free software also in our curriculum. Jenkin(http://holyghostexpress.com) 66. V. Sasi Kumar, Scientist, Centre for Earth Science Studies, Thiruvananthapuram. Proprietary software prevents society from taking full advantage of this wonderful technology. It could seriously threaten our freedom in other aspects of our lives also, in its attempt to prevent people from freely copying and using the software. Free Software empowers people, helps society make full use of IT for its benefits. 67. A.Sivakumar B.E. CSE (KLNCE, Madurai). 68. Terry Machado,Scientist, Centre for Earth Science studies, Thiruvananthapuram 69. Shiju Paul N., Quality Controller/Electrical Engineer, ASC, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. I think our public institutions need not act as the marketing personnel of any particular company. 70. Zaheer Mohamed K., native of Kochi, Kerala, currently pursuing M.Tech Automotive Engg. at VIT, Vellore, Tamilnadu. Strive for Software Freedom! Go for the GNU/Linux OS and Get GNUing! 71. ND, IMHO - FOSS completely fulfils the definition of democracy - of the people, for the people, by the people! Today the support you can get for FOSS is terrific - comparable and sometimes even better than most paid software. All you need is to join good FOSS groups on the internet - and the FOSS supporters are more than willing to help with your queries/problems. I support FOSS - & I feel everyone should too! 72. Hemanth.G, student (ECE- 6th sem) BTLIT, bangalore- FOSS has provided an every alternative tool for most liscenced tools, in a college like ours we have seen the difficulties in labs, any slight problems in the liscenced tools the company has to come and rectify till then no labs, in case of opensource tools any student well worsed with the tools can rectify it, using liscenced tools mean a less no of systems with the tools installed, that means the whole batch has to work on limited no of systems, no freedom in lab to experiment your ideas due to time constraints that others are waiting for their turn. my PC runs only GNU/Linux and tools i use are mostly Open source tools. 73. Arun K. Khan, B. Tech (IITM, 1979), M.S. (Univ. of Illinois, 1981). I have been using Open Source Software (GNU tools and Linux) since 1994. I have implemented Linux solutions in the Small/Medium Enterprise market with satisfied clients. While *big* enterprises have taken advantage of this technology, most small/medium businesses shy away from adopting Linux in their IT department with the excuse "It is hard to find trained Linux developers/administrators." I firmly believe that educational institutions such as yours can play a very *significant* role by introducing OSS/Linux related courses and *remove* this major "road block" excuse to Linux adoption. I strongly urge educational program directors to introduce this technology into their curriculum. From a business perspective, if one can find an OSS/Linux Administrator/Developer as easily as the guy who can write VB programs or develop sites using FrontPage?, I am sure he/she would be more receptive to OSS/Linux solutions. Besides, not having to pay for licenses would be a thick icing on the cake. The other significatnt advantage of OSS/Linux is that students have access to source code and can experiment with their ideas and gain insight into concepts of software design. For a country like India, the more qualified/trained OSS/Linux graduates we have, the better it will be for the software development industry, e.g. coming up with new concepts in s/w desgin, in the country. Thank you. 74. Sanjay Arora, Managing Director, Transcontinental Impex Pvt. Ltd, Amritsar. I am owner of a North Indian SME. I am using Linux/FOSS Software since last six years. As a businessman, I don't give in to emotional issues, such as trying to promote anything due to idealogy. Franky, FOSS makes Economic Sence. Today I use a FOSS Intranet, an Extranet, Inhouse E-mail Servers and many other FOSS Softwares. Had I used expensive propritory systems, it would have broken the back of my IT deptt. To me, FOSS means empowerment. However, we need talent to augment implementation of FOSS Systems. That's why I whole-heartedly endorse this issue. As a nation, we cannot afford to ignore this issue. 75. Nijanand Mathur,Software Engineer,Hyderabad( Ex- Student of VTU,2003 batch) 76. Rashid Kunhi R.H.C.E. 77. Toby Joseph, B.Tech(IT) India simply cannot afford the licensing costs associated with proprietary software. The only solution is to use free software, which is no way inferior to proprietary software, if not superior. As a technologist, haven't you yet noted the fact that the students who use Linux are more well versed with operating system concepts and the programming language C/C++? Is that such a bad thing to be avoided? Please encourage the use of Linux and other free software and ensure that VTU sets an example for other engineering instutions and universities throughout the length and breadth of the country. 78. G Karunakar, Project Coordinator, IndLinux?.org ( http://www.indlinux.org ) . Students should not be just users of software, they should creators. Even if they are not in Computer Science stream, there is a lot they can do with computers. Using free software, makes a big difference here, it helps them learn how things work and allows creativity , to make useful derivatives out of existing software. Also it helps a lot in skill building, since one can go through well written code of others & learn from it faster, all live software than just dummy demo ones. It would also help them learn to think different, and not just follow the usual route of just study to get a job. Being in free software world gives you more than just a job. 79. Ajith B. Use of FLOSS in educational institutions makes a lot of sense - lower costs, flexibility and above all, it allows the students to learn from the source code. 80. From Richard Stallman <rms at gnu.org>: Schools of all levels should insist on Free Software, because proprietary software prohibits learning and builds dependency. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/schools.html 81. Anand Babu (http://freedom.freeshell.org): "Learn, Improve and Share" is very fundamental to the education system. With proprietary software, students can only learn how to use it but can never learn how it works, can never improve it or share it. They need free software. Visit http://www.gnu.org for more info. 82. Ragavan S -- India would do well to take a leaf out of Brazil's notebook in adopting and encouraging the use of and contributions to free and open source software. Educational institutions need to play a leadership role in helping to raise awareness of free and open source software. 83. Rohit Patil, California, USA: The petition and comments above spell it out clearly. Here're my comments - FOSS (Free Open Source Software) is good for India, period, and the VTU adopting it would be a step in the right direction. I wish we had access to this software and documentation when I was in college, besides access to some useful/helpful lab assistants of course! I hope this Open Source trend spreads to the rest of the scientific fields as well, especially energy research, bio-technology, and the medical and pharmaceutical industry, at least to some extent. Technology is pretty much useless if it doesn't reach the common man, and it's not reaching the common man as of now, not in India, and not in the rest of the "developed" world either. Extremely greedy monopolies aren't good either; most of them are into making money for themselves with very little to zero contribution to the field, which has brought us to the state we are in today - hogging off off research done by very few in the in the 19th & 20th (until the '70s and '80s) centuries, and hyping up the rest (remember the dot com fiasco and the mess the Wall Street & Co. has created?). FOSS allows people to go after how-things-work instead of accepting this-is-how-it-works-take-it-or-leave-it. FOSS allows people to make it work better instead of this-is-how-it-works-take-it-or-leave-it. FOSS reduces software piracy => less pressure from the "developed" world on such matters. And FOSS doesn't cost a paisa! All it requires is the right attitude. FOSS IS the right attitude. 84. Nagarjuna G., Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Mumbai, India (Free Software Foundation of India, nagarjun at gnu.org.in): Schools and colleges are social and cultural institutions helping in the process of social inheritance from one generation to the other. It is therefore required that knowledge transmission must be kept free from any proprietary agencies. Free software development, like sceintific development, happens as a cultural and social process. All knowledge must be encoded in an open standard and must be kept away from the evil proprietary agencies. Educational institutions are mightier and have a more important social role to play than any multi-national agency, therefore they should not be subjugated by the selfish corporate agencies. It is a pity that a govt organization tries to engage in private contracts with a multi-national agency whose motivations are clearly to further only their business. Let us recall that education is a state subject, and not a corporate subject. People who are trying to make room for such agencies are slapping on the face of independent India. Let us defend our swatantram. Please revoke this MOU and keep education free. http://www.gnowledge.org/. 85. Laxminarayan Kamath Ammembal., Bangalore, India : I believe, Free Libre and Open Source Software and the *ideology* behind it being implemented in educational institutions is one of the crucial tasks for India in order to reach our beloved President's vision "2020". And my request goes not just to the Vice-Chancellor of the VTU, but to every person involved in the development of the nation, be it education or otherwise, to accept and uplift the spirits of FLOSS as a means to help develop this great nation, and truely stand on its own feet. Till now, It has shown lots of promise to me. But I suggest you dont wait for others to, but, set an example, yourself. I can say being in the FLOSS world has helped me realise my responsibilities towards the society. It has taught me true Social Science, in a practical way. And I would like to emphasize an important point: There is a huge difference between *just using* Open Source Software and being involved in it as a part of the FLOSS community. Again, getting involved is a state of mind. It may be that we still *use* the software, but having the "involved" state of mind helps a lot. I always was sad that current education standards completely lacked moral and practical social science. But it has come from an unlikely source - the world of software development in the form of FLOSS! 86. Vimal Joseph, Kochi, Kerala. 87. Chandrashekhar Mullaparthi, India. I fully endorse the use of Free and Open Source Software in schools and universities. 88. Aaditya Sood, Bangalore, India. Whole heartedly for free software! 89. Atul Chitnis, Bangalore, India. Goes without saying that FOSS is the only way to learn about software. Learning about software by using proprietary software is like learning to drive a bicycle by reading a book. 90. Arpit Sud <arpit04 at gmail dot com>, BE ECE Thiagarajar College of Engg., Madurai. You must lead the way, so that others will follow suit. Adoption of Free Software in schools and colleges is favourable to both the administrators and the student community. 91.Madhavi Ramarao 92. Vaibhav Bora, Bangalore Great institutes like the IITs are majorly into Linux and free software. I really don't know what is stopping so many colleges today to go for more expensive proprietary software which actually curtails learning by abstracting so much. 93. Guys the market in in open source lets go for it - Murali Sriram One more suggestion, please make this petition to all the universities in India and the world. 94. Mahesh T. Pai, Advocate, Ernakulam. It is important that students learn to use Free Software, because Freesoftware gives them freedom, and frees their minds from the clutches of vendors who seek to lock in minds of future developers and users. 95. Sayamindu Dasgupta, Developer and student - Institute of Technology and Marine Engineering (under the West Bengal University of Technology) 96. 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