[lifesaviors] Re: [freshwaterandsustainability] REPLY TO FRESHWATER UPDATE
- From: <lionkuntz@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: freshwaterandsustainability@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,Palaces4People@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:14:30 -0700 (PDT)
I loved your no-nonsense approach in your letter
below. I think more than a few of us have gotten a
realistic understanding over 40 years.
Please visit these webpages which describe water
SYNERGY. 32 years ago I lived in Albuquerque, read
frequently in the Albq Journal how the water supply
would be depleted by the end of the century. Here it
is, the century ended, Albq grew 30% or whatever, and
is fighting in court to kill off endangered species so
they don't have to solve a problem long recognized
with decades available for corrective action.
My webpages TEACH self-help at every level of
technical competence, from primative village to modern
urban landscape.
New ECO-villages will be built; new ECO-cities
constructed, old UNECO_cities replaced. Bandaids on
hemorrhages is not an option any more.
People like you are going to make it happen. I provide
details down to the nitty-gritty color of the nuts and
bolts level of completeness. The introductory pages
are a start in sifting through people who want to get
onboard solutions instead of complaining in impotent
outrage. The start level is broad and simple, but I
have successively more detailed pages, some private --
never indexed by search engines, and some confidential
as required by US patent laws (to self-finance this
program). I think you are showing the smarts to see
the merits.
I have waterworks for the the have-nots, and
waterworks for the haves. Both are more advanced than
anythin deployed on the global today. This is not
self-puffery, but based on understanding what is real,
and what is allowed by the laws of physics.
http://www.ecosyn.us/Ecovillage/
http://www.ecosyn.us/Interesting/
http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Palaces/Shared/Shared_01.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Palaces4People/
http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Proposal/Palaces_For_The_People.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/Calcs.html
Sincerely, Lion Kuntz
Santa Rosa, California, USA
--- senatorbill@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> REPLY TO FRESHWATER UPDATE
>
> As a regular recipient of many listserve
> distributions on the issue of
> sustainable water supplies, human justice, water as
> a human right, anti
> privatisation of water supplies and public services,
> exclusion of public
> services and water from GATS, misinformation from
> the Council of Canadians and
> many many other NGOs, and with the WWF3 next week in
> Kyoto, I have really had
> to ask myself who are these NGOs and these planners.
>
>
> From my cockpit I deal in water every day. I solve
> people's water needs. I
> get water to those who need it. I do the deals that
> solve real people
> problems. I don't pontificate over what is fair or
> unfair, just or unjust,
> whether water is a human right or a public good.
> One can continue this
> argument ad nauseum and the WWF3 program simply
> looks like the same people
> pushing the same stale ideas. We say that
> "Planners" are people who plan for
> the use of property belonging to other people. We
> say that those who don't
> have water call it a human right while those who do
> have it call it an economic
> good. In the final analysis, it makes no difference
> how you see water if you
> can't get it you die of thirst. It is my earnest
> desire that those who try to
> conduct social engineering from 10,000 feet get
> their feet wet on the ground,
> roll up your sleeves and get busy raising the money,
> hiring, the engineers,
> create public involvement in real world water supply
> programs instead of
> diverting your energy in the creation of more NGOs
> and more paperwork that real
> world water providers don't read.
>
> I know that individuals engaged in this work really
> believe in what they say.
> I have been to WWC meetings and I know personally
> many of the luminaries on the
> world water scene. They have real concerns but no
> concrete plans. They are
> outstanding at articulating the issues but no action
> results.
>
> It is the difference in people talking about
> education and what it should be
> and people doing it. People who talk about teaching
> and people who do it.
> People who would talk about what needs to be done to
> save the world and Peace
> Corps Volunteers who go out and implement and do it.
> I suggest there might me
> fewer WWF meetings and fewer meetings of similar
> kinds here and there ad
> nauseum. Let the thousands of NGO's do the work
> they talk about. Let their be
> a "World Water Corps." A group of people with a
> common desire and focus who
> actually implement. I have been a consultant to
> water development programs
> world wide for 40 years throughout Africa, South
> AMerica and Asia. I see no
> consistent water development effort anywhere. The
> old UNDP
> conducted "studies". I myself was a Cypriot
> conterpart to a UNDP program in
> Cyprus in the mid-1960's. While the "experts"
> pontificated, I was in the field
> doing the real-world geology, the ground water
> exploration, locating wells for
> villages and farmers. For years AGID has sought a
> mission. It has floundered
> and is nearly out of existence today. Its
> President, my good friend, Dr.
> Shrikant Limaye will be at the WWF next week. AGID
> was begun many years ago
> with a strong emphasis on water development. It
> drifted away from that when
> its guiding light and my good friend Leo Heindle
> died. I suspect that in
> putting forward this idea, it will meed from much
> resistance from the thousands
> of NGOs each of which is like a political party unto
> itself. The resistance
> comes from the inability to yield institutional
> hegemony to a greater good.
> However, be that as it may, there are simply too
> many people talking and too
> few people doing. The U.S. Peace Corps has provided
> more bang for the buck
> throughout the world than any other entity in the
> history of mankind. Its
> example could be replicated to provide expertise and
> trainging. I recall the
> Togo Fisherman Project of the Peace Corps in 1962.
> The Togo Fishermen came
> from the Bayou of Louisianna, the Coast of Maine and
> elsewhere. Some couldn't
> read or write. The idea was that if you could teach
> a man to fish he could
> feed himself himself.
>
> I am happy to work up this concept with anyone who
> may have an interest and I
> think I have the governmental and technical contacts
> to do it particularly in
> cooperation with Dr. Limaye and others. That is, I
> see expanding a strictly
> technical fraternity of scientists and engineers
> into an operating entity in
> cooperation with other NGOs to provide full grass
> roots and governmental water
> development assistance.
>
> I agree that government inertia is one of the root
> causes of our problems.
> Here in Central New Mexico two weeks ago, I offerred
> to bring 100,000 acre feet
> of water to the area. I was met with politicians
> who were afraid to simply
> write a letter of intent providing the price was
> right.
>
> To create a world water corps will require
> significant funding. I see this
> coming from multilateral aid organizations. IBRD,
> ADB, AfDB, IDB, and other
> development funds as well as UNESCO, UNDP, National
> Donor Organizations such as
> the KfW, CIDA, USAID etc.
>
> Sincerely,
> WaterBank
>
> Dr. William M. Turner, Trustee
> 610 Gold Avenue, Southwest - Suite 111
> Albuquerque, New Mexico 87102
> USA
>
> Telephone: 505-843-7643
> Cellular: 505-480-8025
> Telefacsimile: 505-246-2232
> Email: wturner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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