Since yahoo mail and yahoogroups mail unexpectedly truncates long messages, this reply to Scott's points is presented in parts: PART 4 of 4 > Instead of making claims about this incredible idea > or that one ( and then > not showing people ), just hunker down and make them > real. The pictures are real. The words are real. They are precursors in a process of condensation pulling intangible mindstuff down to physical reality. What is shown is ignored. Scott is looking for what is not shown, then bitching when he finds it. > If you don't > have the money necessary, draw up a business plan > and then show it to the > banks and venture caps. If there is merit in your > ideas, they will throw > money at you. In process by better people at that then I am. > Or, do you truely want to share what you have > thought and discovered? I DID SHARE IT. You wouldn't be writing unless you had experienced a portion of that sharing. If it makes you HUNGRY for more, then maybe that kind of energy will accelorate the condensation process of bringing creativity into tangible reality. > Then > tell people about your ideas. Remove all the > self-glorification and > vitriol and sarcasm out of your missives. And then I wouldn't be me anymore. Relax Scott. I'll be dead before too long and you won't have to put up with ME. The question is: what kind of a world will you be living in, and where will your necessities be coming from, and how many species will be on the endangered species lists? My little 17 sq. meters of occupancy and my little 200 pages of website (which I pay cash money for with no contributions from Scott) can be tolerated. There are over 3,000,000,000 webpages on google index and thousands of groups on Yahoo groups, so why do YOU NEED to be a terminator robot spraying word-bullets into my little bubble? Where ARE YOU coming from? > If your > message is insightfull > and valuable, people will come to respect you > without you telling them what > a luminary you are. I had to get through all the above crap to get to the little pieces of so-called "constructive criticism". Can you people cut it short? Maybe a preamble: "I hate your guts, and this is what I think about http://www.ecosyn.us/Ecovillage/ page"? > Ecocity issues: > > My first reaction to your proposal is to wonder how > each level of living > quarters will be laid out. I wonder about that too. I am in the process of communicating with licenced seasoned working experienced architects, and I am hoping that they help me work that stuff out. I think that the majority of units may have to be two-story split level units so that the patios are fairly distributed. This is a picture of another way to decorate the wedding cake: http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Palaces/New_Bldg_01.JPG ... It has deep cutouts bringing natural daylight deeper into the core of the building. This picture is interim and expected to be extensively revised. > Does each living unit > have windows leading > outside? Required by law in civilized places. EACH HABITABLE ROOM is required to have air and light access. It's a difficult challenge, but, hey, the difficult we do today, the impossible we do by tommorrow. > Can each unit have a porch or some > connected place to be outside? Every unit has a patio deck on the flat rooftop of the rooms below of the terraced building. It is the reason for the terraced design. The building has 1 hectare of footprint of covered land and 0.96 hectares (or just 4% loss) of USABLE outdoor deck-patio areas. > My thought is that the quality of living will be > very very poor if most of > the living units have no connection to the outside > world. I think a > sample floor plan of one of the lower floors would > be very helpful here. When can I expect you to send one in? Or am I supposed to treat everybody like helpless infants who need their asses wiped, and as the only adult on the whole freakin' planet I have to do everything by myself for a bunch of gimme-gimme-gimme's? ... So in summation, is it fair to say that you liked it, you really really liked it? Sincerely, Lion Kuntz Santa Rosa, California, USA. PS: google reports: Searched the web for "Palaces for the People". Results 1 - 100 of about 365. Search took 0.75 seconds http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=%22Palaces+For+the+People%22 ... this is up from 232 when I started this educational campaign two weeks ago. So at least some part of the program is working. Ain't intelligence grand? Wonder what the numbers will be tomorrow? http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Challenges/Asia_Floods/Wet/All_Wet.html http://www.ecosyn.us/ecocity/Challenges/Asia_Floods/Asia_Floods.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com