Hi Daniel,
I don't know if you have been following the list lately, but there has recently
been quite a lot of discussion on the list, both about back-translation in
general, and about specific points. If this mailing list has an archive, I
suggest you start there. Otherwise, I could probably find something to forward
to you off list.
I am myself planning to start working on back-translation for other tables,
once I have finished the current expansion and restructuring of the Danish
Tables.
I will be happy to help you along the way, but you would probably do well to
also find somebody who is fluent in Braille in the languages for which you want
to do back-translation.
HTH Bue
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Sendt: 7. august 2015 15:45
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Emne: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Back translation - starting with Italian and French
Hello,
I'm working on a project that allows a blind person to enter Braille using a
touch screen on a mobile device. I'm looking to add back translation
capabilities to many of the liblouis tables that currently seem to only be good
for forward translation. Given I have users using French and Italian I am
starting with those.
To be honest I really don't know where to start. I've done a bit of reading of
some of the tables as well as the documentation of liblouis. I'm thinking that
I should just need to add more restrictions to the tables eg. by using the
before and after operators. Is this correct or is it not this easy?
The other issue I'm having is that there seems to be limited documentation on
these tables especially around context. I only speak English, so it also makes
it hard that I'm not familiar with the codes.
A couple of specific questions:
1. I notice that back translation of numbers does not work in fr-fr-g1. I
presume number 1 should be #*. If I change digits6dotsPlusDot6.uti to have
lines with litdigit rather than "digit" eg. "digit 1 16" to "litdigit 1 16"
things seem to work correctly. This seems to effect a lot of tables though. Is
it wise to edit this file or should I just make a new
litdigits6DotsPlusDot6.uti file and define the dots here? Or am I just doing
this all wrong?
2. In Italian Braille there seem to be circumstances where certain dot
combinations represent either an accented character or some punctuation. Not
sure exactly the rules governing this and online docs seem vague. Is anyone
familiar with Italian Braille able to offer some help with this? Is this again
a case of using before and after rules to make this more restrictive?
3. I have also been told that there are some characters in Italian that
are mapped to the same dot combinations irrelevant of context. Is this true and
if so how should I go about handling this in the Italian table?
I'm really keen to try and get a few of the more popular languages working in
liblouis and I'm sure this would help with many other projects like nvda. If
anyone can assist with any of this or would like to help with this process I
would be very grateful.
Thanks for any help.
Kind regards,
Daniel Dalton
