Especially for Mike Sivill, I have decided to follow your lead and use the ordinary Grade Two table for text in math material. The Science News magazine is doing so also. The Grade Two table has been refined a great deal since the en-us-mathtext.ctb table was made, and keeping the latter up-to-date would be a real pain. I don't think experienced braille readers will have any great problems. If there are troublesome ambiguities they can be resolved by using an extension table employing the correct and pass2 opcodes. In addition, the recent fixes to the literary table to handle isolated punctuation marks make it easier to produce correct punctuation in mathematical expressions. I mentioned using escape sequences such as escape-b at the beginning of math and escape-e at the end. This concept will be extended to rows and columns in matrices and eventually to other situations. This will necessitate some changes in the code for liblouisxml , but I'm exploring software QA, so I hope to test them thoroughly before releasing them. John -- John J. boyer; President, Chief Software Developer JJB Software, Inc. http://www.jjb-software.com Madison, WI USA Developing software for people with disabilities For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com