John, Mike has it summed up nicely in his response. Susan -----Original Message----- From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Sivill Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:55 PM To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters Yeah, ok, if it means the letter before the period then it gets the letter sign But not if it stands for someone's initial. Or an item in an outline. Or a one-letter abbreviation. It's section 12 in EBAE. Mike -----Original Message----- From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:44 AM To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters BANA rules for a single letter before a period are not that straight forward. For example, "Drop that in box b." requires a letter sign. Susan -----Original Message----- From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Sivill Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:38 AM To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters That's the rule for English braille according to BANA. Mike -----Original Message----- From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lars "Bjørndal" Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:30 AM To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters Hello John! After some more testing, I found that you are right. However, if a single letter is followed by a period, then the letsign is not preceding the character. Can you duplicate that? The uper case character is defined with uplow opcode in the Norwegian tables. Lars "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Lars, > > Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you. I've been busy with > UTD and bugs in general. > > The letsign opcode works with both upper and lowercase letters in the > eng-us tables. How are uppercase letters defined in your tabbles? > > Thanks, > John > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Lars Bj?rndal wrote: >> Hi John! >> >> > Lars, >> > >> > The English tables contain some tricks. The word "a" is given the opcode >> > largesign. This was done before the opcodes nolletsign, >> > noletsignbefore >> > and noletsignafter were included. You should be able to write >> > something >> > like: >> > >> > nolitsign e >> > >> > Each letter requires its own entry. The liblouis compiiler assigns >> > some >> > letters and punctuation marks used in English to these noletsign opcodes >> > by defaulgt. However, if you use any of them it will not do so. >> >> Thank you! Letsign and noletsign works for lower case letters. For >> upper case, however, it doesn't. So, by using 'letsign 56', a single >> letter o is translated into '<56>o', but a capital letter O is still >> treated as '<6>o', not '<56><6>o'. Should that be fixed by adding the >> letter O as a word? >> >> Lars >> >> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:05:27PM +0200, Lars Bj?rndal wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> >> >> I'm working on single letters and grade 2. How are you doing this >> >> for the english tables in liblouis, e.g. why isn't the single >> >> letter word 'a' output as '56-1' according to the tables? >> >> >> >> I'm aware of the letsign and noletsign, but I cannot find these opcodes >> >> in the English tables, neither can I find lines like 'word a 1'. >> >> >> >> If choosing to use noletsign, should the characters be typed >> >> separated by comma? For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com For a description of the software and to download it go to http://www.jjb-software.com