[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters

  • From: "Susan" <chrn3292@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 17:02:27 -0500

John,

Mike has it summed up nicely in his response. 

Susan



-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mike Sivill
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:55 PM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters

Yeah, ok, if it means the letter before the period then it gets
the letter sign But not if it stands for someone's initial.
Or an item in an outline.
Or a one-letter abbreviation.
It's section 12 in EBAE.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Susan
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:44 AM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters

BANA rules for a single letter before a period are not that
straight forward. For example, "Drop that in box b." requires a
letter sign. 

Susan



-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mike Sivill
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:38 AM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters

That's the rule for English braille according to BANA.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Lars "Bjørndal"
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:30 AM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: Grade 2 and single letters

Hello John!

After some more testing, I found that you are right. However, if
a single letter is followed by a period, then the letsign is not
preceding the character. Can you duplicate that?

The uper case character is defined with uplow opcode in the
Norwegian tables.

Lars

"John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Lars,
>
> Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you. I've been busy
with 
> UTD and bugs in general.
>
> The letsign opcode works with both upper and lowercase letters
in the 
> eng-us tables. How are uppercase letters defined in your
tabbles?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Lars Bj?rndal wrote:
>> Hi John!
>> 
>> > Lars,
>> >
>> > The English tables contain some tricks. The word "a" is
given the
opcode 
>> > largesign. This was done before the opcodes nolletsign, 
>> > noletsignbefore

>> > and noletsignafter were included. You should be able to
write 
>> > something

>> > like:
>> >
>> > nolitsign e
>> >
>> > Each letter requires its own entry. The liblouis compiiler
assigns 
>> > some

>> > letters and punctuation marks used in English to these
noletsign
opcodes 
>> > by defaulgt. However, if you use any of them it will not do
so.
>> 
>> Thank you! Letsign and noletsign works for lower case letters.
For 
>> upper case, however, it doesn't. So, by using 'letsign 56', a
single 
>> letter o is translated into '<56>o', but a capital letter O is
still 
>> treated as '<6>o', not '<56><6>o'. Should that be fixed by
adding the 
>> letter O as a word?
>> 
>> Lars
>> 
>> > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:05:27PM +0200, Lars Bj?rndal
wrote:
>> >> Hi!
>> >> 
>> >> I'm working on single letters and grade 2. How are you
doing this 
>> >> for the english tables in liblouis, e.g. why isn't the
single 
>> >> letter word 'a' output as '56-1' according to the tables?
>> >> 
>> >> I'm aware of the letsign and noletsign, but I cannot find
these
opcodes
>> >> in the English tables, neither can I find lines like 'word
a 1'.
>> >> 
>> >> If choosing to use noletsign, should the characters be
typed 
>> >> separated by comma?
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