Hi, I am using liblouis for translation in BrailleBack. (*) both for forward and backtranslation. Todya, I was testing the de-de-comp8.ctb table for user input. It looked great on the braille display, but the characters that were actually backtranslated to were the unicode braille patterns. The reason for this (ammusing) behaviour is that de-de-comp8.ctb includes braille-patterns, which it has done since subversion revision 775. It can be fixed by moving the include to the bottom of the file (I assume the other directives take precedence then). Grepping through the tables, a few other files also include the braille-patterns.cti file in various locations in the files. I'd suspect that back translation is more or less broken in those files as well (assuming the intent is not to get the braille pattern unicode characters back). Question: is the proper solution to move the include directive to the bottom of the table files or is there a cleaner solution? Is there a reason to not always do this? Thanks, //Peter *) For those who wonder, brailleback is the Google android app that provides braille display support on recent versions of the android platform. For a description of the software, to download it and links to project pages go to http://www.abilitiessoft.com