[LRflex] the new Leicas, Dog's bollocks ...
- From: Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:52:08 +0200
Walter. Thanks for sharing this out, I start to see better what the product can
offer. And it does match the market, good job from the Marketing Team! Still,
the extrnal viewfinder on a thin heavy for manipulating a 80-200mm heavy zoom?
It's not an integrated solution. But Leica clings to the M system, they are
right, the S system offers a superb SLR. The R system is not competitive and
this set up, M with an external finder + adapter + peaking focus _is_ the right
solution, on par with the GX1 of PEN, but more expensive, as Leica is, always.
Let me show my dog shaking his head about the new system :
http://xavierf.b.free.fr/Temp/L1000906_dev.jpgBut he is a "tad poch" as a
dog!(Digilux3 + Oly 11mm + HDR + contrast !) ME : It's a camera to discover too
at the Paris Fair. The peaking focus designed as a red line imprinted over the
object in focus is much better than what I had thought. Not too sure it is easy
to focus on a say, Red MG classic car; hmmmm!
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From : Xavier F. BILLE
mail : hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx
Maisons Alfort - France
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:39:55 +1000
> From: walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: the new Leicas ...
>
> Don't know,
>
> Checked the video:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151006395027735&set=vb.75684997734&type=2&theater#
>
> Seems like a nice camera and the ability to mount both M and R on one
> body is not a bad thing. No crop factor. I know it is not for
> everyone. Well there is always the new Nikon D600 for backward lens
> compatibility. Not for R though.
>
> Not in my stable, I think the new M sells for five and half grand.
>
> Regards
>
> Walter
>
>
> On 18/09/12 19:25, Bille Xavier F. wrote:
> > Philippe,
> >
> > Yes, you are right, a range finder with an electronic viewfinder !
> >
> > The solution of the ME is indeed a updated VisioFlex
> >
> > The Fuji X Pro1 with it's very well enginnered X to M adapter is seen
> > as a potential threat by Leica.....
> >
> > And the fuji XE1, i've reported to the list is certainly a good plug
> > in for the R lenses. Will fuji make a R to X adapter? the R system was
> > discontinued long ago to be in the public domain, so I hope.
> >
> > All it needs for the fuji XE1 is a focus peaking system in the
> > viewfinder. It could come as a simulated range finder patch, two
> > colored circles to align horizontally. When the circles are aligned,
> > they dim out in a light and thin white patch. A press on the AFL
> > button would reactivate the function, it is reactivated after a
> > picture is taken or if the camera was put to sleep or change of mode
> > (P to M, A to M mode, for instance)
> >
> > Of course, this is operated only when the RtoX adapted is mounted and
> > communicate with the body.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm into functionnal requirements for designing a new system !
> >
> > Fuji is not on the market to sale a body for lenses dating of the
> > LeicaFlex. The combination of their sensor and the quality of the lens
> > built for a format 3:2 albeit a different crop factor, is certainly
> > more "legacy" than anything else !
> >
> > Waiting for the next Camera fair of Paris......
> > #-----------------------------------
> > From : Xavier F. BILLE
> > mail : hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Maisons Alfort - France
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > From: philippe.amard@xxxxxx
> > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [LRflex] Re: 1917 + the new Leicas ...
> > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:39:10 +0200
> >
> >
> >
> > Le 18 sept. 12 à 09:31, Bille Xavier F. a écrit :
> >
> > Salut Philippe, messieurs les Flexers
> >
> > A very nice collection !
> >
> > And indeed, a good chance to visit the east of France while still
> > sitting on my butt by the Marne River.
> >
> > For US listers, Verdun, another place that paid the high tribute
> > in the Great War is located in the "departement" (er, county) of
> > "Marne", the same river flows upstream.
> >
> > From all the pictures, this one made me smile:
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Doulce+France/Metz/MSM-MTZ-1038.jpg.html
> >
> > It's a must have in all pubs where beer (much more than a
> > breakfast drink...) flows in.
> >
> > It's sort of funny they exhibit such a piece of furniture, under a
> > glass dome, in the middle of the room.
> >
> >
> > Thanks Xavier :-)
> > The glass case is meant to prevent people from fizzily adding to its
> > artistic value ...
> > More on Duchamp's Fountain including a photograph by Stieglitz, eh oui!
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_%28Duchamp%29>
> >
> >
> > Superb framing, I keep telling you every time but it's so true as
> > seen from my eye.
> >
> > Ah, Girls and Motorbikes, Alice and Motobecane good use of a
> > wide angle :
> >
> >
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Doulce+France/Metz/MSM-MTZ-1034.jpg.html
> >
> > I see your shadow, kneeling, just near the top of the front wheel,
> > with your shulder bag on the left side.....
> >
> >
> > I'm so sad they had cleaned the windows ;-)
> >
> >
> > OTT there are 2 - read TWO - new Leicas out there.
> > One of which claims to be "the adequate solution for R users" but is
> > no more than a PanaOly sort of contraption that would rank high in
> > Heath Robinson's complete works.
> > The add-on EVF is a joke - and the adaptor offers no AE for all I
> > know, etc.
> > Have any of their brilliant engineers ever used an R, or had a look at
> > the glorious VF of a Leicaflex? I'm still wondering.
> >
> > AMitiés
> > Philippe, R9 Dieselless
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks !!!
> > #-----------------------------------
> > From : Xavier F. BILLE
> > mail :hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Maisons Alfort - France
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From:philippe.amard@xxxxxx <mailto:philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
> > > To:olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [LRflex] 1917 as seen by Centre Pompidou Metz - a
> > glimpse of ...
> > > Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:42:28 +0200
> > > CC:leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > We paid a visit to Le Centre Pompidou-Metz this morning for an
> > > exhibition focussed on the Year 1917.
> > > Greg will remember the place I think.
> > >
> > > So here is an very limited excerpt of the works and artefacts on
> > > display; the lead is that these works of art were created in the
> > very
> > > specific context of WWI.
> > > The result is a mix of military reminders, works of arts produced by
> > > the population at large and by the soldiers themselves, photographs
> > > and casts showing the atrocious conditions both sides to the
> > conflict
> > > lived in or survived with.
> > > It also includes pieces famous the world over and created on
> > that year
> > > 1917.
> > >
> > > My selection starts here:
> >
> > >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Doulce+France/Metz/MSM-MTZ-1058.jpg.html
> > >
> > > and proceeds to the right.
> > > Some may be better viewed LARGE.
> > >
> > > Bien cordialement de Metz, Lorraine
> > > Philippe
> > >
> > > More on the Center at
> > >http://www.centrepompidou-metz.fr/1917
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