I always felt the rip and burn guys were always reloading during the decisive moment. Kevin Steven Rosenthal <steverose108@xxxxxxx> wrote: Right on Neil, I think the photo world started down this 'slippery slope' with the advent of motor drive Nikons and it has just gone downhill from there. Also photographers paid on staff, burning up rolls of color film someone else was buying each assignment, in hopes of sifting thru them and finding one Pulitzer winner amongst them. I think, an M60 approach, not even shotgun. Back in the days of the 4x5 Speed Graphic (which I still shoot with for fun sometimes) you thought long and hard before pressing the button...many were independents buying their own film and paying for their own lab, or like Weegee, developing it in the trunk of their car on the way back to downtown Manhattan to flog their gory shots at the highest price to the several editors they would have as buyers. The young trainees were sent out with a couple of film holders and told something akin to what the USMC snipers are taught... one bullet, one kill! Unlimited 'free exposures' on digital have just added to this trend, I think... The antidote is spend some time with one camera, one fixed lens, maybe even black and white, and slow down and smell the roses, so to speak! The real cure is to try a view camera, not for everyone, I realize but if you like it there is nothing else to compare with the way you can spend all day having a great time, shoot maybe a only couple photos but have them worth the time and effort. Yours, Steve ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr/lrflex.htm Archives are at: www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.