Troy Freund wrote: >>> If Leica wanted to make a "P" that stood for "professional" and not "prestige", I think they could have skipped the "unscratchable" glass and attempted to find a way to break the $5K barrier. <<< That would be "E", not "P", as in R-E. The -P has precedent in the R4sP and S2-P. >>> Has Leica always been top-shelf? Even back in the M3 days? My impression was that they had made similar products to the other competition at the time. <<< Yes they've always been a top-shelf brand. The difference now is that the other makers are offering cheapened models in addition to their top-shelf models. Doug Herr Birdman of Sacramento http://www.wildlightphoto.com ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/