Every camera I have owned that had any kind of automation (most did not) I have chosen aperture priority 90% of the time. I found that in manual mode I was selecting the aperture, then dialing the shutter to give the correct exposure and deviating from that if I thought the meter was being fooled. Well, in aperture mode, it does what I was doing anyway. For me, aperture is more important than shutter as it controls the DOF, which is what I really want to do, and then let the shutter fall where it may. If I need to control the shutter, I just do it by regulating the aperture. And if I need to override, the +/- control is easy to get to, especially since I programmed one wheel to work for that so I do not need to press a +/- button. So, if you find yourself mainly using the suggested exposure in manual mode, why not make your life easier and choose either A or S modes. Decide which is most important to you and use it and let the camera set the other parameter. Most new meter systems are pretty darn good at balancing even hard lighting situations. I found the R8 particularly good at this when I was shooting slide film. Hard film to use in tricky situations. My Canon Rebel was good about 80% of the time and my D7000 is good maybe 90% for the kinds of situations I photograph, and some are pretty tricky. Aram From: Tina Manley Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:30 PM To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [LRflex] Re: menu woes Same here. Manual 90% of the time, Aperture when I need it. Tina On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3@xxxxxxx> wrote: On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:53 PM, David Simms wrote: > Man !! Manual mode would be quite the challenge. i can do it, while sitting on the couch, but, in the field, it would take more time than setting up a view camera. My failing, of course. > > My aim is to set up the options so I know what it wants to do and so I know what it wants to do. Then, I'll be happy. > > Have you ever checked out a DLUX 4 ? Is that geeky ? I've not checked out a DLUX 4. I primarily shoot manual (I prefer knowing shutter, aperture, ISO and making informed choices as I work) with M8, R8/DMR, and 5D. When I need to speed things up I shoot Aperture priority, while keeping an eye on the shutter speed. I never shoot P. Can't imagine a reason to do so. Regards, George Lottermoser george@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.imagist.com http://www.imagist.com/blog http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com