[LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #323
- From: "vijay v. patel" <krivisoh@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:18:28 +0530
now the new tally of votes is 371 votes. hope leica considers this, but we
still need more votes.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager <
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> Leica Reflex Forum Digest
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> leicareflex Digest Sun, 01 Nov 2009 Volume: 06 Issue: 323
>
> In This Issue:
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Sign a protest chart for the existence of the R10
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Why a R10? a mere SL3 would do AFAIAC
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: Why a R10? a mere FF Pana G would satisfy me
> [LRflex] Re: Why a R10? a mere FF Pana G would satisfy me
> [LRflex] Re: Why a R10? a mere FF Pana G would satisfy me
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #315 - Strawberry tree fo
> [LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #316 - DS's Lovely Lily
> [LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #319 - Eric & architectur
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> [LRflex] hanging...
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:21:51 +0100
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> From: Miha Golobic <miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> *Miha,*
>
> *I am interested if you have any expectation that this will move Solms to
> do
> something.*
>
>
> *Have you any background on how this came into being and who the people
> behind it are?*
>
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Bill
> *
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I came across this petition via www.leicarumors.com
> It started on www.summilux.net , a French site dedicated to Leica cameras,
> by its forum moderator.
>
> Unfortunately I have no further insights.
>
>
> Cheers, Miha
>
>
>
> 2009/11/1 Andy Wagner <yxandy2001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> >
> >
> > --Thanks For the link Miha just added my 2cents worth---- >--
> > Regards
> > YXAndy
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
> >
> >
> >
> > Miha
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Sign a protest chart for the existence of the R10
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:44:06 +0100
>
> Good Day Flexers
>
>
>
> The French Club named Summilux.net has opened a page for all the R users
> who ask Leica a Digital Reflex m LEICA a Reflex
>
>
>
> I have just added my name and commented in French that we, the Leica Reflex
> Int'l, co founded with David are demanding this Reflex
>
>
>
> Please, feel free to add your name and let them know you are from the
> LRFLEX list ;)
>
>
>
> http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
>
>
>
> That page exists in some major European Language
>
>
>
> Have a nice Week End.
> ---------------------------------
> Xavier F. BILLE
> Maisons-Alfort - France.
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:46:15 +0100
>
> Ah Miha, you have been the quickest!
>
>
>
> I just discovered that page a minute ago and you were aware already!
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> ---------------------------------
> Xavier F. BILLE
> Maisons-Alfort - France.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:29:47 +0100
> Subject: [LRflex] petition for R10
> From: miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
>
>
>
> Miha
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Why a R10? a mere SL3 would do AFAIAC
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:08:02 +0100
>
> Gang,
>
>
>
> On the base of the M9, the firmware, the sensor, etc if Leica builds a SLR
> which has the qualitative viewfinder of a SL2 and the Size of a R7, I'll be
> the first to order one.
>
>
>
> All right, this is a niche of a product.
>
>
>
> But let's imagine it is built on a base of the M9, then the price would be
> acceptable, the after sale / repair easier.
>
>
>
> Not to forget the ergonomics which are unique on the market, the Leica
> touch. I love the ergonomics of the M9.
>
>
>
> Of course for the lenses there is The ROM link against the IR coding of the
> M9. Of course it needs a strong step by step motor to move the diaphragm
> mechanism (and not that stong).
>
>
>
> Of course the SL3 reflex needs to be able to select a lens manually (and
> record it among 5 user configuration).
>
>
>
>
>
> After all why not, BMW has come out with the new Mini, Fiat with the 500
> (cinqueciento), VW with the Beetle, Citroen with the DS.....
>
>
>
> The LEICA SL3 Digital seems a good choice. The name is close to the Leica
> S, the flagship
>
>
> And just imagine using a 50mm Cron of 1962 on the SL3, "back to future" as
> the popular saying goes.
> ---------------------------------
> Xavier F. BILLE
> Maisons-Alfort - France.
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:21:25 +0100
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> From: Miha Golobic <miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> *Ah Miha, you have been the quickest!*
>
> More spare time, I quess :-)
>
>
>
>
> 2009/11/1 Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Ah Miha, you have been the quickest!
> >
> > I just discovered that page a minute ago and you were aware already!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Xavier F. BILLE
> > Maisons-Alfort - France.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:29:47 +0100
> >
> > Subject: [LRflex] petition for R10
> > From: miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
> >
> >
> >
> > Miha
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:19:51 +0100
> From: pwerner <pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Why a R10? a mere FF Pana G would satisfy me
>
> I posted the following on the Leica User Forum
>
> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/103641-petition-leica-r10-3.html#post1101697
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> I signed the petition today. Status is 280 now. I have a heavy investment
> in
> R glass, including for instance the 35-70/2.8 Vario Elmarit. For the time
> being, and before resolving to go the Leotax path, I use the R lenses on my
> G1.
>
> It would not look too difficult nor extremely expensive to build (perhaps
> by
> Panasonic) a full-format G1 with the M9 sensor. No need of AF nor IS for
> the
> base model, just be able to use existing lenses manually. If it does well,
> later add AF and IS and compatible lenses that would open a new lens market
> for Leica.
>
> Do sign the [petition here ->
> http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en]. If it will not achieve
> anything, at least we tried our best
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:54:19 +1100
> From: Walter Kramer <walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Why a R10? a mere FF Pana G would satisfy me
>
> pwerner wrote:
> >
> > I posted the following on the Leica User Forum
> >
> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/103641-petition-leica-r10-3.html#post1101697
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > I signed the petition today. Status is 280 now. I have a heavy
> > investment in R glass, including for instance the 35-70/2.8 Vario
> > Elmarit. For the time being, and before resolving to go the Leotax
> > path, I use the R lenses on my G1.
> >
> > It would not look too difficult nor extremely expensive to build
> > (perhaps by Panasonic) a full-format G1 with the M9 sensor. No need of
> > AF nor IS for the base model, just be able to use existing lenses
> > manually. If it does well, later add AF and IS and compatible lenses
> > that would open a new lens market for Leica.
> >
> > Do sign the petition here
> > <http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en>. If it will not
> > achieve anything, at least we tried our best
> >
> > Cheers
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I tend to agree, however a compatible reflex mount would be more
> enabling for existing R glass. One would have the same program modes
> available as on the R7, (Sorry, no experience with later Rs) i.e, the
> camera would be able to meter wide open and then take the shot in
> program mode adjusting aperture and shutter speed according to the
> tendency the photographer has set. The G1 is fine but it will only
> determine shutter speed and full manual mode is also quite awkward.
>
> I have added my name to the petition. A full frame G1 type of camera is
> a step forward and it would be nice to mount R glass on it but I would
> not expect to pay M9 prices for it.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Walter Krämer
> walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Bus: 03 9854 2463
> Mob: 0414 884 965
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:22:29 +0100
> From: pwerner <pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: Why a R10? a mere FF Pana G would satisfy me
>
>
> I agree inasfar the camera should be able to meter wide open and have a DOF
> preview button, but for that you do not need a DSLR. My main point is the
> viewfinder. It is much easier and cheaper to build a G1-viewer type camera
> than a new full-frame DSLR. Keep it simple. Of course it should cost much
> less than an M9.
>
> BTW, the petition has now reached 290
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
> ----------------original message-----------------
> From: "Walter Kramer" walter.kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:54:19 +1100
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> > I tend to agree, however a compatible reflex mount would be more
> > enabling for existing R glass. One would have the same program modes
> > available as on the R7, (Sorry, no experience with later Rs) i.e, the
> > camera would be able to meter wide open and then take the shot in
> > program mode adjusting aperture and shutter speed according to the
> > tendency the photographer has set. The G1 is fine but it will only
> > determine shutter speed and full manual mode is also quite awkward.
> >
> > I have added my name to the petition. A full frame G1 type of camera is
> > a step forward and it would be nice to mount R glass on it but I would
> > not expect to pay M9 prices for it.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Ong Pang Jin" <pjong@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:20:28 +0800
>
> Signed, I am #293.
> I will post it on local photo forum too.
> cheers.
>
>
>
> From: Miha Golobic
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:21 PM
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
>
>
>
> Ah Miha, you have been the quickest!
>
>
> More spare time, I quess :-)
>
>
>
>
> 2009/11/1 Bille Xavier F. <hot_billexf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Ah Miha, you have been the quickest!
>
> I just discovered that page a minute ago and you were aware already!
>
> Cheers!
>
> ---------------------------------
> Xavier F. BILLE
> Maisons-Alfort - France.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:29:47 +0100
>
> Subject: [LRflex] petition for R10
>
> From: miha.golobic@xxxxxxxxx
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
>
>
>
> Miha
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:38:20 +0100
> From: pwerner <pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
>
> Posted on Flickr:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63672801@N00/4064266466/
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----------------original message-----------------
> From: "Ong Pang Jin"
>
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 21:20:28 +0800
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Signed, I am #293.
>
> I will post it on local photo forum too.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:08:17 +0100
> From: pwerner <pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
>
> Posted on the Leica Forum of dpreview :
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum 38&message3559247
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:31:15 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx" <pwerner@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
>
>
> Posted in the GetDPI Photography Forums > Digital Camera Forum > Leica (M,
> X and R):
> http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?p=150871#post150871
>
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Aram Langhans" <leica_r8@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 07:33:22 -0800
>
> Done. Thanks for the link.
> Worth a shot, anyway.
>
> Aram, almost back from my trip.
>
>
> From: Miha Golobic
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [LRflex] petition for R10
>
>
> http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
>
>
>
> Miha
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:54:46 +0100
> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #315 - Strawberry tree forevon
>
> Superb magic!
> Where's the cream?
> In the bokeh he said.
> ;-)
>
> Thanks for sharing Steve, lovely indeed.
> Amitiés
> Philippe
>
>
> FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
>
> >Leica Reflex Forum Digest
> >+------------------------+------------------------------------
> >leicareflex Digest Sun, 25 Oct 2009 Volume: 06 Issue: 315
> >
> >In This Issue:
> > [LRflex] strawberry tree...
> > [LRflex] Re: Minerve, in France
> > [LRflex] Re: Dr. Ted's Opening... SMASH HIT!
> > [LRflex] Re: Minerve, in France
> > [LRflex] Fw: [Leica] Boring Chateaux
> > [LRflex] Re: Minerve, in France
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:52:02 -0700
> >Subject: [LRflex] strawberry tree...
> >
> >seen in the Capitol Mall Park...
> >
> >in front of the California State Capitol, Sacramento...
> >
> >first I took the photo, then identified the tree... a strawberry
> >tree, from Europe...
> >
> >
> >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW+2009/strawberrytree.jpg.html
> >
> >
> >M9 Summicron 28mm/2 ASPH,
> >
> >
> >
> >thanks,
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:06:07 +0100
> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #316 - DS's Lovely Lily
>
>
> Love it - must be your favourtie flower to give 'her' each time such a
> wonderful treatment.
> Thanks for sharing
> Amitiés
> Philippe
>
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:18:22 +0100
> >From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@xxxxxx>
> >Subject: [LRflex] IMG: White Lily
> >
> >Hello all,
> >it's not Friday, but here's a flower anyway.
> >
> >*http://tinyurl.com/yhyt3a7*
> >
> >One of a series I shot in 2005. I just played around
> >with CS2 and
> >Lightroom this morning until it came out like this.
> >
> >Not sure whether I could reproduce the result (or even
> >whether it's
> >worth reproducing).
> >
> >Let me know what you think. Comments, advice and
> >criticism more than
> >welcome.
> >
> >TIA
> >Douglas
> >
> >Technical details: Canon 20D, Leica 4/100 Macro-Elmar-R
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:10:42 +0100
> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V6 #319 - Eric & architecture
>
> Funny but lovely tones of a past time.
> Did you get these by trying to get details in the shadows?
> Just curious to know.
> These 'postcards*' would have sold by the score a few years back. Really
> lovely.
>
> Thanks for sharing
> Philippe, who loves postcards
>
>
> >
> >From: LEICAFLEX <leicaflex@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:58:17 -0800
> >Subject: [LRflex] A Year Ago......in Paderborn, Germany
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Here are just some humble travel anniversary snaps from this week a
> >year ago when I was in Paderborn for a short clinical trial, and took
> >out the M7 with Tri-Elmar for a stroll on the last day of my stay. It
> >was typical October weather - cloudy weather, sporadic showers,
> >without frigid temperatures. C & C's welcome!
> >
> >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Leicaflex/Paderborn
> >
> >Next time I go to Paderborn, remind me to fly into Dusseldorf and
> >connect to Paderborn instead of taking the long train ride from
> >Frankfurt airport!
> >
> >Eric Chan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "William B. Abbott III" <captbilly3@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:25:08 -0800
>
> Hi Miha,
> I'm number 313. We'll see what happens.
>
> It's not exactly a "to the barricades" moment but it is at least an
> expression of interest that may get some attention.
>
> Al the best,
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Miha Golobic wrote:
>
> > Miha,
> >
> >
> > I am interested if you have any expectation that this will move
> > Solms to do something.
> >
> >
> > Have you any background on how this came into being and who the
> > people behind it are?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > I came across this petition via www.leicarumors.com
> > It started on www.summilux.net , a French site dedicated to Leica
> > cameras, by its forum moderator.
> >
> > Unfortunately I have no further insights.
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Miha
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/11/1 Andy Wagner <yxandy2001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > --Thanks For the link Miha just added my 2cents worth---- >--
> > Regards
> > YXAndy
> >
> >
> >
> >> http://www.summilux.net/r10/index.php?lang=en
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Miha
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:31:34 +0100
> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
> Subject: [LRflex] Re: petition for R10
>
> I was 249 this morning only
> Is this circulating on the LUG too?
> I'm just back and haven't resumed my subscription yet
>
> Phx
>
>
> William B. Abbott III wrote:
>
> > Hi Miha,
> >
> > I'm number 313. We'll see what happens.
> >
> > It's not exactly a "to the barricades" moment but it is at least an
> > expression of interest that may get some attention.
> >
> > Al the best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > On Nov 1, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Miha Golobic wrote:
> >
> >> Miha,
> >>
> >>
> >> I am interested if you have any expectation that this will move Solms
> >> to do something.
> >>
> >>
> >> Have you any background on how this came into being and who the
> >> people behind it are?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> Hi Bill,
> >>
> >> I came across this petition via www.leicarumors.com
> >> <http://www.leicarumors.com/>
> >> It started on www.summilux.net <http://www.summilux.net/> , a French
> >> site dedicated to Leica cameras, by its forum moderator.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I have no further insights.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers, Miha
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: [LRflex] hanging...
> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:15:59 -0800
>
> please view large...
>
>
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/PAW+2009/hanging.jpg.html
> >
> >
> >
> > M9 Summicron 28/2 ASPH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Steve
>
> ------------------------------
>
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