[LRflex] Re: leicareflex Digest V4 #128

  • From: "a aa" <classwp@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:42:08 -0400

Swiss watches are no longer sold as timepieces. They are marketed as
jewelry for upscale buyers; not a viable business model for Leica,
unless Leica want to sell only through Hermes boutiques.

On 12/05/07, phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Watches: whoever owns the company the question is where are they manufactu=
> red?
>
> Smart: built 30 miles from where I'm writing to you tonight - I visited th=
> e plant a couple of times too, by Satch quit long ago and it is Daimler Be=
> nz AG.
>
> Do post some photos=21 Why not after all?
>
> Take good care of your selves.
>
> Phil...x
>
>
>
> ----Message d'origine----
> >Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:53:10 +0100
> >De: KEITH LONGMORE <keith=40SCAPEWHEEL.CO.UK>
> >A:  leicareflex=40freelists.org
> >Sujet: =5BLRflex=5D Re: leicareflex Digest V4 =23128
> >
> >Hi Phil
> >I don't want to prolong the off-topic slant, but:
> >you said:
> >
> >BTW: The Swiss also had tremendous problems a couple of years ago when =
>
> >watches went electric/tronic. Here again they made the right choices to =
>
> >face Asian competition; Swatch is just one example, but other more =
>
> >expensive brands are also thriving on high-end mechanical time-pieces.
> >
> >
> >The Swiss were in deep trouble earlier than that - the 1976 oil crisis =
>
> >caused a massive slump in sales, and many Swiss companies were =
>
> >effectively bankrupt then (competition had decimated profits in a =
>
> >saturated market).  In the History of Tissot, there are photographs of =
>
> >large crates full of watches (without straps) being sent for scrap in =
>
> >1976/7, because they could not be sold.  Four years later, as the =
>
> >'proper' electronic watches started to become popular, they decided to =
>
> >shut down some 80-90% of their industry.  Now they (a) can't keep up =
>
> >with demand for mechanical watches, and (b) can't attract new blood into =
>
> >the industry.  It's easy to over-react=21=21
> >
> >FYI:
> >Swatch is a part of SMH Group, owned by Nicolas Hayek, of Smart car =
>
> >fame.  Also in the Group are: Omega, Tissot, Lanco, Lemania, ETA, to =
>
> >name the active ones.  Most expensive mech watches now have ETA =
>
> >movements - e.g. Breitling, TAG-Heuer, Mido, Longines, etc., as well as =
>
> >SMH Group members.
> >
> >Rolex (as I understand it) is South African-owned, IWC, Zenith -Movado, =
>
> >Oris are largely US owned; TAG is Saudi owned.
> >
> >Scary what can happen if you get it wrong, isn't it?
> >
> >Gun cameras: ever tried walking into an airport carrying one...?  ;-)  =
>
> >Seriously, they are likely to be made illegal here shortly: but who is =
>
> >going to try to rob a bank based on carrying in a WWI Lewis-gun camera?  =
>
> >The danger is, it seems, that our poor police are likely to shoot anyone =
>
> >carrying a gun camera in public, so they need to be protected from such =
>
> >trauma.
> >
> >And, finally - your history lesson=21  May I just add the comment: over =
>
> >the main entrance to Auschwitz nowadays is a quote of, as I remember, =
>
> >Schiller: =22If we allow history to be forgotten, it will happen again.=22
> >
> >When I'm over this Detroit bug - I'm still poorly, and my wife is =
>
> >suffering, too - I'll get some more pics to post. =
>
> >Maybe I should post some from my youth.......
> >Cheers
> >Keith
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