Swiss watches are no longer sold as timepieces. They are marketed as jewelry for upscale buyers; not a viable business model for Leica, unless Leica want to sell only through Hermes boutiques. On 12/05/07, phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <phamard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Watches: whoever owns the company the question is where are they manufactu= > red? > > Smart: built 30 miles from where I'm writing to you tonight - I visited th= > e plant a couple of times too, by Satch quit long ago and it is Daimler Be= > nz AG. > > Do post some photos=21 Why not after all? > > Take good care of your selves. > > Phil...x > > > > ----Message d'origine---- > >Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:53:10 +0100 > >De: KEITH LONGMORE <keith=40SCAPEWHEEL.CO.UK> > >A: leicareflex=40freelists.org > >Sujet: =5BLRflex=5D Re: leicareflex Digest V4 =23128 > > > >Hi Phil > >I don't want to prolong the off-topic slant, but: > >you said: > > > >BTW: The Swiss also had tremendous problems a couple of years ago when = > > >watches went electric/tronic. Here again they made the right choices to = > > >face Asian competition; Swatch is just one example, but other more = > > >expensive brands are also thriving on high-end mechanical time-pieces. > > > > > >The Swiss were in deep trouble earlier than that - the 1976 oil crisis = > > >caused a massive slump in sales, and many Swiss companies were = > > >effectively bankrupt then (competition had decimated profits in a = > > >saturated market). In the History of Tissot, there are photographs of = > > >large crates full of watches (without straps) being sent for scrap in = > > >1976/7, because they could not be sold. Four years later, as the = > > >'proper' electronic watches started to become popular, they decided to = > > >shut down some 80-90% of their industry. Now they (a) can't keep up = > > >with demand for mechanical watches, and (b) can't attract new blood into = > > >the industry. It's easy to over-react=21=21 > > > >FYI: > >Swatch is a part of SMH Group, owned by Nicolas Hayek, of Smart car = > > >fame. Also in the Group are: Omega, Tissot, Lanco, Lemania, ETA, to = > > >name the active ones. Most expensive mech watches now have ETA = > > >movements - e.g. Breitling, TAG-Heuer, Mido, Longines, etc., as well as = > > >SMH Group members. > > > >Rolex (as I understand it) is South African-owned, IWC, Zenith -Movado, = > > >Oris are largely US owned; TAG is Saudi owned. > > > >Scary what can happen if you get it wrong, isn't it? > > > >Gun cameras: ever tried walking into an airport carrying one...? ;-) = > > >Seriously, they are likely to be made illegal here shortly: but who is = > > >going to try to rob a bank based on carrying in a WWI Lewis-gun camera? = > > >The danger is, it seems, that our poor police are likely to shoot anyone = > > >carrying a gun camera in public, so they need to be protected from such = > > >trauma. > > > >And, finally - your history lesson=21 May I just add the comment: over = > > >the main entrance to Auschwitz nowadays is a quote of, as I remember, = > > >Schiller: =22If we allow history to be forgotten, it will happen again.=22 > > > >When I'm over this Detroit bug - I'm still poorly, and my wife is = > > >suffering, too - I'll get some more pics to post. = > > >Maybe I should post some from my youth....... > >Cheers > >Keith > >------ > >Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > > http://www3.telus.net/=7Etelyt/lrflex.htm > >Archives are at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Noos, votre bureau virtuel sur Internet : Mail... > Web : webmail.noos.fr > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/