I have to admit, if they could produce such a camera, at the cost of an M8 (or very little more) that had the noise levels of the DMR (does not need to be any better), in an R8 (or smaller) body, while maintaining at least an R8 level viewfinder, I might forgive them their sins with my DMR! yes, and didn't we already have this same dialogue at least three times ... ? Steve ------ Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: http://www3.telus.net/~telyt/lrflex.htm Archives are at: //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/